(11-22-2016, 12:27 PM)Travis Wrote: Shannon:

In Funky's journal you and others were discussing Freezing instead of executing DMSI's script.

I'm reading a very interesting book entirely about this freeze response, called "Waking the Tiger" by Peter Levine. Very highly reviewed on amazon and goodreads.com

It argues that this freezing is rooted in our animalistic "fight/flight/freeze" response to trauma. After escaping a predator, you will see gazelles shake uncontrollably for a little while before eating grass like nothing ever happened.

We tend to focus on fight/flight, but the freeze response is just as viable in the animal kingdom. In many cases it is the best chance of survival. Levine believes that emotional trauma caused by this response, and that many mental illnesses are rooted in the body's inability to escape the tension built up in the nervous system from the freeze response.

Humans have forgotten how to do this, and because we have the neocortex, we can partially override this natural release and mess up the process even further through denial and rationalization. My guess is that myself and others are doing this to some degree.

I'm not sure how this could help the script, but it seems very related and I thought you might find it helpful or just relevant/interesting.

(11-22-2016, 06:33 AM)Frankie Wrote: And then here's yet another living proof since hypnosis should be right up Shannon's alley. This hypnotherapist survived a glider crash back in 2004, he's suffering from Avascular Necrosis and there's absolutely so cure whatsoever. Finally he's digging into his skills as a hypnotist and actually healed his right talus joint after spending 144 days on trance within a trance. (Pretty much like the movie Inception IMHO.)

Finally he's able to walk again perfectly without a wheelchair or even a crutch, nutrients were delivered to his right foot through meridians instead of blood vessels:

http://www.drbellchung.com/?page_id=7667&lang=en
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Science Finally Proves Meridians Exist - Uplift
http://upliftconnect.com/science-proves-meridians-exist/

http://books.google.com/books?id=EaPO5kmN5pYC&pg=PA116
http://books.google.com/books?id=z75rAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT114
http://www.wrf.org/wrf-news/and-nothing-happened.php
Chapter 10: Visualizing the Meridians
- Two aerospace nuclear medical doctors have made visible the entire acupuncture meridian system using radioactive isotope (Te99) and catscan cameras. They have validated the ancient Chinese meridian system as being 100% correct as written more than 3,000 years ago.

The principles should be fairly simple to understand:

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Experiences/bell_c_nde.htm

Quote:The Sub-conscious Dream Therapy

The key to recovery was to go deep down into the subconscious. To achieve this, I conducted double self-hypnosis, or in other words, to dream inside a dream.

Dream provides a gateway to communicate with our subconscious mind, and serves as a platform for self-healing. We may construct double or even multiple layers of dream to help enter deeply into the subconscious for healing purpose. What I did was to program the second layer dream in a constructive, target-oriented and symbolic manner so that they acted as hypnotic suggestion to the subconscious in trance state. Because our subconscious and body are interrelated, through the symbolic activities and actions in the dream, we can trigger the physical and psychological effects.

Once I was deeply relaxed in trance, I was guided by my subconscious doctor to a second layer dream. In that arena I performed various symbolic self-healing activities, such as cleaning a street, building bridges and irrigation system for a farmland. Because our subconscious is closely connected to our body, there are mirror connections between dream and body. These symbolic self-healing dream experiences in my inner world led me to actual tangible body recovery on the outside.

You may wonder, how does dream interact with our physical body? Let me show you two examples:

Dream 1: You travelled back to the high school time. You were sitting in an examination room. All the classmates around you were doing their own papers. You realized that the paper on your desk was blank, and you had no clue how to answer the questions. As soon as you hurried to write down something, suddenly the bell rang. Time’s up. You were anxious. People handed in their papers and left the room one by one. Except you, you were still writing. The bell rang louder and faster… Suddenly, you woke up in sweat, and you realized the ringing bell actually came from your bed alarm.

Dream 2: You had drunk a lot of water before going to bed. The excessive liquid put pressure to your bladder. Your body transmitted a sign of overloading to your brain, which was then decoded as an urge for urination. In parallel time, in your dream you saw something related to water, such as rainfall, waterfall, dripping water pipes or you might even find yourself peeing or looking for toilet.

These two dreams show how intimate is the relationship between our body and dream. Dream actively interacts with our body, providing feedback to our physical state of being and reflecting our state of being. Dreams are susceptible to our body’s physical conditions such as stimulations of sound, lighting, smell or surrounding environment. This is why the bed alarm would be translated into the ringing bell in your dream, and the anxiety experienced in a dream world actually sweats the physical body.

(11-22-2016, 12:30 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote:

(11-21-2016, 09:11 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-21-2016, 09:02 PM)heavysm Wrote: Shannon, for DMSI I'm seeing V2.5 and V2_4 for the download files...

Are we to just use V2.5 or is it up to us to pick between the two options?

2.4 is made available for those who want to focus on healing.

Shannon can you make V1 available again ? It seemed to be the most effective out of all the DMSI. Id dint get a chance to download it

(11-22-2016, 01:58 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2016, 12:27 PM)Travis Wrote: Shannon:

In Funky's journal you and others were discussing Freezing instead of executing DMSI's script.

I'm reading a very interesting book entirely about this freeze response, called "Waking the Tiger" by Peter Levine. Very highly reviewed on amazon and goodreads.com

It argues that this freezing is rooted in our animalistic "fight/flight/freeze" response to trauma. After escaping a predator, you will see gazelles shake uncontrollably for a little while before eating grass like nothing ever happened.

We tend to focus on fight/flight, but the freeze response is just as viable in the animal kingdom. In many cases it is the best chance of survival. Levine believes that emotional trauma caused by this response, and that many mental illnesses are rooted in the body's inability to escape the tension built up in the nervous system from the freeze response.

Humans have forgotten how to do this, and because we have the neocortex, we can partially override this natural release and mess up the process even further through denial and rationalization. My guess is that myself and others are doing this to some degree.

I'm not sure how this could help the script, but it seems very related and I thought you might find it helpful or just relevant/interesting.

I believe that in humans, the freeze response is a situation in which the sense of security is violated to a degree that causes "life threatened" reactions. In the case of a freeze response, the person literally is "playing dead" because they have no idea what else to do. Once we give them programming as to what to do, that should stop.

(11-22-2016, 01:11 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

Let's suppose there was a metaphoric phrase in one of your programs such as "Everything I touch turns to gold". How does the unconscious interpret that?

Also what does the unconscious do with words such as not, can't, won't doesn't, etc.?

(11-22-2016, 01:11 PM)Nemanja Wrote: Shannon, you probably thought of this (and probably included it too, possibly under body language) but I'd like to put it out there anyway.

I got reminded of this today by a girl, when she told me that I'm looking at her like a killer (purely accidental, haha).. I figure, from how she said it, in a good way.

Two words - eye contact.

I always believed that the eyes are one of the biggest factors of attraction, and maybe adding it into DMSI would have some added effect.

A magnetic gaze always goes a long way (there are ways to train yourself to do this, but it does require quite a lot of practice).

(11-22-2016, 01:11 PM)Nemanja Wrote: I got reminded of this today by a girl, when she told me that I'm looking at her like a killer (purely accidental, haha).. I figure, from how she said it, in a good way.

(11-22-2016, 02:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: Then it would fail, because turning everything to gold literally counters the agreed upon mass illusion we all have created, and one mind against the collective is not going to change the rules of the game.

(11-22-2016, 02:19 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2016, 02:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: Then it would fail, because turning everything to gold literally counters the agreed upon mass illusion we all have created, and one mind against the collective is not going to change the rules of the game.

This is fascinating.

How does DMSI work around (or with) this "fact"?

(11-22-2016, 02:28 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2016, 02:19 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(11-22-2016, 02:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: Then it would fail, because turning everything to gold literally counters the agreed upon mass illusion we all have created, and one mind against the collective is not going to change the rules of the game.

This is fascinating.

How does DMSI work around (or with) this "fact"?

DMSI uses the rules of the game you don't know about, and uses the ones you did know about in ways that you didn't know were allowed...

Quote:Yeah, women dig murderers big time. They send tons of love letters and marriage proposals to inmates on death row.

(11-22-2016, 02:44 PM)RisingSon Wrote:

(11-22-2016, 02:35 PM)Nemanja Wrote:

Quote:Yeah, women dig murderers big time. They send tons of love letters and marriage proposals to inmates on death row.

When a girl blushes, I take that in a good way. By saying killer, she meant an intense look, and not specifically a killer as in a serial murderer.

But I see you have your humor with you - that's a good thing

I wasn't being humorous, just stating a fact. Why would otherwise losers stuck in prison get that much attention from female admirers? It's a deep mystery to ponder on the female condition. Now I'll have to work on my "I'm going to kill you like my last gf" stare.