(12-19-2015, 10:27 AM)QuantumEnthusiast Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 09:55 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 07:06 AM)QuantumEnthusiast Wrote: Hey Shannon, I just remembered that I read somewhere if the subliminal messages are sped up they become way less effective. You might know this already, just thought I'd let you know anyway in case you were using that method to increase the input as you claim the 5G versions have a massive subliminal data input to your brain.

Source pls?

I just tried to find it but couldn't. It was a pretty long time back when I was looking for a good subliminal to use before I came across Shannon's work. I came across a thread that mentioned about hyperspeed today and was reminded of what I had read, so thought I'd mention it and let Shannon know just in case he didn't know.

(12-19-2015, 11:47 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: This is the Article. I didn't post a link because it would be advertising the people who wrote this article.

Do Subliminal Messages Work?

Tips to Avoid buying Bogus Subliminal Message Products

What is Real and what is Subliminal *****?

Many companies that sell Subliminal Message products will promote how their products ‘go beyond‘ typical (often described as old fashioned or outdated techniques) subliminal message systems. Most common ‘Advanced & Powerful” promises of product effectiveness are added by using techniques such as

1) Reversed Speech: Embedding the Subliminal Affirmations in Reversed playback. The Claim is that it allows the suggestions to bypass the critical Conscious Mind and access the Subconscious Mind

2) Sped up messages: Embedding the Subliminal Affirmations played at super high speeds. (check the sample of this later in the article)

3) Silent tracks: Nothing is Embedded, the volume of the affirmations is recorded below anyone’s ability to hear them

While these claims sound nice, and are designed to appeal to your desire to believe that your subconscious mind is capable of this incredible feats – They are simple not true.

You are wasting your time and money on marketing fantasy with absolutely no evidence that it works! This is the same as claiming that because you painted Angel wings on your car it will now fly.

The advancement of Neuroscience while freely admitting does not understand many things about the human brain, does understand a tremendous amount, AND more importantly knows what the brain is not capable of. The Sub Conscious mind does not encode a secret message in reversed speech to express your ‘true’ intentions when speaking. Neurons do not respond to stimulus it does not hear, nor can you understand speech speed up at a rate where it is gobbledygook.


The Science of Subliminal Messaging

The science of Subliminal Messaging is based on the messages being there, but beyond the threshold of conscious perception. The messages must be perceivable without the encoding stimulus or else they just do not work. This means that any type of affirmations given in a subliminal message product must be able to be heard and understood if the background (masking) sound was not there.

You will find that in true recordings you will sometimes hear a muffled sound of the affirmations in the session at certain times. This is when the background music has a rising and lowering volume level and sometimes the affirmations are heard at the low points of volume. For this reason using music is not always the best ‘carrier track’ and something with a steady white noise (like ocean waves) is better.

Any Subliminal Message Recordings with other claims (reversed, silent, super fast etc) should be a red flag that you are dealing with either a con artist or someone with good intentions but fell into the trap of believing fantasy about what the mind can do and never checked with the real science of what is known.

There is Absolutely NO EVIDENCE that any Subliminal Message given beyond normal conscious perception (as opposed to masked by a carrier sound) has any effect. NO Study of ANY product has ever produced a result.

(12-19-2015, 11:47 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: This is the Article. I didn't post a link because it would be advertising the people who wrote this article.

Do Subliminal Messages Work?

Tips to Avoid buying Bogus Subliminal Message Products

What is Real and what is Subliminal *****?

Many companies that sell Subliminal Message products will promote how their products ‘go beyond‘ typical (often described as old fashioned or outdated techniques) subliminal message systems. Most common ‘Advanced & Powerful” promises of product effectiveness are added by using techniques such as

1) Reversed Speech: Embedding the Subliminal Affirmations in Reversed playback. The Claim is that it allows the suggestions to bypass the critical Conscious Mind and access the Subconscious Mind

2) Sped up messages: Embedding the Subliminal Affirmations played at super high speeds. (check the sample of this later in the article)

3) Silent tracks: Nothing is Embedded, the volume of the affirmations is recorded below anyone’s ability to hear them

While these claims sound nice, and are designed to appeal to your desire to believe that your subconscious mind is capable of this incredible feats – They are simple not true.

You are wasting your time and money on marketing fantasy with absolutely no evidence that it works! This is the same as claiming that because you painted Angel wings on your car it will now fly.

The advancement of Neuroscience while freely admitting does not understand many things about the human brain, does understand a tremendous amount, AND more importantly knows what the brain is not capable of. The Sub Conscious mind does not encode a secret message in reversed speech to express your ‘true’ intentions when speaking. Neurons do not respond to stimulus it does not hear, nor can you understand speech speed up at a rate where it is gobbledygook.


The Science of Subliminal Messaging

The science of Subliminal Messaging is based on the messages being there, but beyond the threshold of conscious perception. The messages must be perceivable without the encoding stimulus or else they just do not work. This means that any type of affirmations given in a subliminal message product must be able to be heard and understood if the background (masking) sound was not there.

You will find that in true recordings you will sometimes hear a muffled sound of the affirmations in the session at certain times. This is when the background music has a rising and lowering volume level and sometimes the affirmations are heard at the low points of volume. For this reason using music is not always the best ‘carrier track’ and something with a steady white noise (like ocean waves) is better.

Any Subliminal Message Recordings with other claims (reversed, silent, super fast etc) should be a red flag that you are dealing with either a con artist or someone with good intentions but fell into the trap of believing fantasy about what the mind can do and never checked with the real science of what is known.

There is Absolutely NO EVIDENCE that any Subliminal Message given beyond normal conscious perception (as opposed to masked by a carrier sound) has any effect. NO Study of ANY product has ever produced a result.

(12-19-2015, 11:35 PM)FrostedFake Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 11:25 PM)CatMan Wrote: FrostedFlakes!

I liked your post before I noticed this blasphemy!

Lol, but yeah I just hope nobody else falls for this crap.

(12-19-2015, 11:45 PM)FrostedFake Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 11:37 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 11:35 PM)FrostedFake Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 11:25 PM)CatMan Wrote: FrostedFlakes!

I liked your post before I noticed this blasphemy!

Lol, but yeah I just hope nobody else falls for this crap.

LOL!!

Then, you should check this thread out, I think you'll enjoy it:

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-6960.html

I must say, Catman, I'm dissapointed in the lack of lego in that thread. Theres like only a 5 to 1 ratio.

(12-19-2015, 11:47 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: This is the Article. I didn't post a link because it would be advertising the people who wrote this article.

Do Subliminal Messages Work?

Tips to Avoid buying Bogus Subliminal Message Products

What is Real and what is Subliminal *****?

Many companies that sell Subliminal Message products will promote how their products ‘go beyond‘ typical (often described as old fashioned or outdated techniques) subliminal message systems. Most common ‘Advanced & Powerful” promises of product effectiveness are added by using techniques such as

1) Reversed Speech: Embedding the Subliminal Affirmations in Reversed playback. The Claim is that it allows the suggestions to bypass the critical Conscious Mind and access the Subconscious Mind

2) Sped up messages: Embedding the Subliminal Affirmations played at super high speeds. (check the sample of this later in the article)

3) Silent tracks: Nothing is Embedded, the volume of the affirmations is recorded below anyone’s ability to hear them

While these claims sound nice, and are designed to appeal to your desire to believe that your subconscious mind is capable of this incredible feats – They are simple not true.

You are wasting your time and money on marketing fantasy with absolutely no evidence that it works! This is the same as claiming that because you painted Angel wings on your car it will now fly.

The advancement of Neuroscience while freely admitting does not understand many things about the human brain, does understand a tremendous amount, AND more importantly knows what the brain is not capable of. The Sub Conscious mind does not encode a secret message in reversed speech to express your ‘true’ intentions when speaking. Neurons do not respond to stimulus it does not hear, nor can you understand speech speed up at a rate where it is gobbledygook.


The Science of Subliminal Messaging

The science of Subliminal Messaging is based on the messages being there, but beyond the threshold of conscious perception. The messages must be perceivable without the encoding stimulus or else they just do not work. This means that any type of affirmations given in a subliminal message product must be able to be heard and understood if the background (masking) sound was not there.

You will find that in true recordings you will sometimes hear a muffled sound of the affirmations in the session at certain times. This is when the background music has a rising and lowering volume level and sometimes the affirmations are heard at the low points of volume. For this reason using music is not always the best ‘carrier track’ and something with a steady white noise (like ocean waves) is better.

Any Subliminal Message Recordings with other claims (reversed, silent, super fast etc) should be a red flag that you are dealing with either a con artist or someone with good intentions but fell into the trap of believing fantasy about what the mind can do and never checked with the real science of what is known.

There is Absolutely NO EVIDENCE that any Subliminal Message given beyond normal conscious perception (as opposed to masked by a carrier sound) has any effect. NO Study of ANY product has ever produced a result.

(12-19-2015, 11:48 AM)mat422 Wrote: So I gotta ask. How much is EHPRA 2.0 gonna cost when it comes out?

(12-22-2015, 08:29 AM)spiritman Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 11:48 AM)mat422 Wrote: So I gotta ask. How much is EHPRA 2.0 gonna cost when it comes out?

I believe it will probably be around $89.99.

(12-23-2015, 08:24 AM)Superman Wrote: Would OF/OGFS/ERPHA 2 help with emotional intimacy and trust issues?