(12-17-2015, 01:43 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-17-2015, 12:35 AM)maxx55 Wrote:

(12-16-2015, 10:41 PM)FrostedFake Wrote:

(12-16-2015, 10:17 PM)maxx55 Wrote:

(12-16-2015, 10:10 PM)yeah! Wrote: Hey Shannon is OGSF definately coming out with OF? If so I might reat now and decide when they get here (I presume OF 1.1 will not be a straight switch to OGSF 5G).....

I must've missed this earlier, I'm curious to know the answer to this as well. Will OGSF 5G include OF 5G in it's entirety?

It most certainly will. Shannon said that he only has to change "fear" in the script to "guilt shame and fear" and its all good. Check out one of his latest posts in his journal.

What! It's gonna have all the awesome state-related backported 6G magic too?! Awesome

Then wouldn't it be best to do OGSF 5G instead of OF 5G in most cases?

Was OGSF 4G the same as OF 4G +Guilt and Shame? It seemed like people had a much better fear releasing result with OF rather than OGSF back in 4G.

It will have the State Shifting Engine in it, but the 6G version is not the same. It's actually much more advanced, and links into/is supported by other 6G technologies simultaneously.

So in 5G we have the State Shifting Engine, end in 6G we have the Advanced State Shifting Engine.

And I know, there's a joke in there somewhere...

I'm making both so people have a choice. In my humble opinion... OGSF is a better choice. Other people may disagree, and circumstances may differ.

No, OF and OGSF 4G are significantly different scripts.

(12-17-2015, 11:40 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(12-17-2015, 01:43 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-17-2015, 12:35 AM)maxx55 Wrote:

(12-16-2015, 10:41 PM)FrostedFake Wrote:

(12-16-2015, 10:17 PM)maxx55 Wrote: I must've missed this earlier, I'm curious to know the answer to this as well. Will OGSF 5G include OF 5G in it's entirety?

It most certainly will. Shannon said that he only has to change "fear" in the script to "guilt shame and fear" and its all good. Check out one of his latest posts in his journal.

What! It's gonna have all the awesome state-related backported 6G magic too?! Awesome

Then wouldn't it be best to do OGSF 5G instead of OF 5G in most cases?

Was OGSF 4G the same as OF 4G +Guilt and Shame? It seemed like people had a much better fear releasing result with OF rather than OGSF back in 4G.

It will have the State Shifting Engine in it, but the 6G version is not the same. It's actually much more advanced, and links into/is supported by other 6G technologies simultaneously.

So in 5G we have the State Shifting Engine, end in 6G we have the Advanced State Shifting Engine.

And I know, there's a joke in there somewhere...

I'm making both so people have a choice. In my humble opinion... OGSF is a better choice. Other people may disagree, and circumstances may differ.

No, OF and OGSF 4G are significantly different scripts.

So to clarify, the 4G versions of these two, OF was often better because of the difference in scripting, but the 5G versions of both will be a lot more similar (or is it the same?), and so that's why you suggest OGSF over OF for the 5G?

(12-17-2015, 12:37 PM)Survivor Wrote: Shannon, will you please take a look at the Gynecomastia sub while building Breast Enlargement

(12-17-2015, 11:18 PM)yeah! Wrote: Hey Shannon, I'm looking at running AM6 and BASE, I think AM6 will take me 2-3 go's to get all the bullets. And BASE maybe 4ish. Would it be ok to run them in lots of two ie AM6 twice, then BASE twice then back to AM6 if necessary or would this go over the 1 year between runs? Would you recommend just getting it over with in one go or is sets of 2 ok if both sub goals are equal in importance?

If I had the time I would just go AM6 until bullets achieved, but I don't.

(12-17-2015, 10:27 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-17-2015, 11:40 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(12-17-2015, 01:43 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-17-2015, 12:35 AM)maxx55 Wrote:

(12-16-2015, 10:41 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: It most certainly will. Shannon said that he only has to change "fear" in the script to "guilt shame and fear" and its all good. Check out one of his latest posts in his journal.

What! It's gonna have all the awesome state-related backported 6G magic too?! Awesome

Then wouldn't it be best to do OGSF 5G instead of OF 5G in most cases?

Was OGSF 4G the same as OF 4G +Guilt and Shame? It seemed like people had a much better fear releasing result with OF rather than OGSF back in 4G.

It will have the State Shifting Engine in it, but the 6G version is not the same. It's actually much more advanced, and links into/is supported by other 6G technologies simultaneously.

So in 5G we have the State Shifting Engine, end in 6G we have the Advanced State Shifting Engine.

And I know, there's a joke in there somewhere...

I'm making both so people have a choice. In my humble opinion... OGSF is a better choice. Other people may disagree, and circumstances may differ.

No, OF and OGSF 4G are significantly different scripts.

So to clarify, the 4G versions of these two, OF was often better because of the difference in scripting, but the 5G versions of both will be a lot more similar (or is it the same?), and so that's why you suggest OGSF over OF for the 5G?

OF 4G was only "better" when used in specific contexts, and only because it was more focused within those contexts. For someone trying to overcome fear specifically, more focus is generally going to be better, provided that guilt and/or shame are not too heavily entwined with it. (Spiderweb theory)

Regardless of how similar the script is in the end for the 5G versions of OF and OGSF, the best option depends on the desired goal and the specifics of the individual. In most cases, my opinion is that OGSF will be the better of the two because it deals with all three simultaneously; but, because there is less focus, this process will take longer for each of the three targets. If guilt or shame are not a serious concern for you, or are not a concern right now, then OF 5G would provide the advantage of focus and thus increased obviousness (since apparently "obviation" is too advanced a word for modern English dictionaries) and speed of results.

I suggested OGSF because in all cases I have studied, the three together, guilt/shame/fear have been present and to some degree inter-supportive and inter-affective.

(04-27-2015, 08:12 PM)Shannon Wrote:

1. Compassion for oneself.
   
2. Overcoming Fear
   
3. Immunity to guilt, shame and fear
   
4. Prevent resistance from sabotaging the use of the program
   
5. Self appreciation
   
6. Let go of and stop needing/seeking the approval of and permission of others for your healing.
   
7. Give yourself the approval and permission to heal that you need.
   
8. Give yourself approval and permission to live the life that allows you to heal, stay healthy, and makes you genuinely happy and healthy.
   
9. Overcome the victim mentality.
   
10. Deservedness for healing and being healthy.
    
11. Kill self pity.
    
12. Kill self sabotage
    
13. Physical, mental and emotional relaxation to benefit healing.
    
14. Positive thinking, positive attitude.
    
15. Neutralize internal negativity and make yourself immune to internal and external negativity.
    
16. Allow for happiness and healing through genuine gratitude and appreciation.
    
17. Make yourself worthy of your own self love, and allow you to be loving towards yourself.
    
18. Fill yourself with and radiate loving and healing energy, which seeks to heal mind and emotions.
    
19. Like yourself, and if necessary, make yourself deserving of self liking and adjust yourself to be someone you can like and love.
    
20. Generate and maintain hope.
    
21. Generate and allow all necessary self confidence for healing.
    
22. Transform anger into a positive that assists in healing not only the self, but the causes for the anger.
    
23. Self esteem enhancement
    
24. Let go of and heal whatever holds you back from healing and move on into a state of healing and health.
    
25. Mental, physical and emotional stress relief.
    

(12-17-2015, 11:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: OF

(12-17-2015, 10:27 PM)Shannon Wrote: Regardless of how similar the script is in the end for the 5G versions of OF and OGSF, the best option depends on the desired goal and the specifics of the individual. In most cases, my opinion is that OGSF will be the better of the two because it deals with all three simultaneously; but, because there is less focus, this process will take longer for each of the three targets. If guilt or shame are not a serious concern for you, or are not a concern right now, then OF 5G would provide the advantage of focus and thus increased obviousness (since apparently "obviation" is too advanced a word for modern English dictionaries) and speed of results.

I suggested OGSF because in all cases I have studied, the three together, guilt/shame/fear have been present and to some degree inter-supportive and inter-affective.

(12-17-2015, 11:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: I'd say... run AM6 twice and then assess the landscape. A lot can change in that time.

(12-19-2015, 07:06 AM)QuantumEnthusiast Wrote: Hey Shannon, I just remembered that I read somewhere if the subliminal messages are sped up they become way less effective. You might know this already, just thought I'd let you know anyway in case you were using that method to increase the input as you claim the 5G versions have a massive subliminal data input to your brain.

(12-19-2015, 09:55 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(12-19-2015, 07:06 AM)QuantumEnthusiast Wrote: Hey Shannon, I just remembered that I read somewhere if the subliminal messages are sped up they become way less effective. You might know this already, just thought I'd let you know anyway in case you were using that method to increase the input as you claim the 5G versions have a massive subliminal data input to your brain.

Source pls?