(10-21-2016, 10:39 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: Please don't abandon the DMSI project - it's been an amazing ride for me so far and I definitely see the value of the tech. 2.5 is just getting started.

(10-21-2016, 04:29 PM)Bookstacks DC737 Wrote: Is anyone here using creatine as well as the subliminal?
I was using creatine from June to around August-ish, when I just stopped caring about it.
Creatine plays a key role in energy production:

Quote:Creatine works as a type of energy shuttle, carrying energy in usable chunks from large storage molecules to places in cells where work needs to be done

I'm curious if my results have been effected by not taking creatine for so long.

It pays to be skeptical so I'm going to have to say no currently, but I'll be updating if anything changes regarding DMSI.

Also: creatine is awesome - subliminal or not. It helps with muscle recovery, gives energy and increases testosterone by a large amount and is the most well-studied supplement I can currently think of.

I've certainly noticed a large enough change in my endurance and muscle recovery speed after not having for so long that I'm excited to begin using it again.

A bottle that will last you a year costs like $20. Make sure to get Creatine Monohydrate and don't fall for any of the marketing crap. Monohydrate is the one with all the studies and results.

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(10-22-2016, 07:23 AM)Banksy Wrote: Shannon just a suggestion, maybe women would approach the user more if they appeared more shy and non-threatening. When I was younger girls used to approach me when I was kind of shy, they would still shit test me, but I would get a lot of attention, and they always came in groups. (Maybe to help their confidence). Come to think of it, women never really make a move unless they're backed by friends (unless they're eccentric). Maybe that's a good place to start. Just a thought.

EDIT: maybe make the aura half openness half sexiness. Although I don't believe that mindset would be productive in other areas of life, could have some fun just for a couple of months.

(10-21-2016, 10:32 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: It's normal that you're gonna have impatient people, Shannon. Don't let it discourage you. Although I am sure you will use it as fuel to achieve greatness. I'd like to thank you for working so hard on this subliminal. It's definitely helped so much. It's massively speeding up my progress and I can see myself reaching the end goal in the near future!

(10-22-2016, 12:26 PM)THolt Wrote:

(10-21-2016, 10:32 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: It's normal that you're gonna have impatient people, Shannon. Don't let it discourage you. Although I am sure you will use it as fuel to achieve greatness. I'd like to thank you for working so hard on this subliminal. It's definitely helped so much. It's massively speeding up my progress and I can see myself reaching the end goal in the near future!

How are they being "impatient" when they genuinely aren't getting results? Aren't they supposed to report what results they are actually getting? If people get criticized for not reporting actual results, then it creates a groupthink atmosphere that discourages people from reporting their results

(10-22-2016, 12:26 PM)THolt Wrote:

(10-21-2016, 10:32 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: It's normal that you're gonna have impatient people, Shannon. Don't let it discourage you. Although I am sure you will use it as fuel to achieve greatness. I'd like to thank you for working so hard on this subliminal. It's definitely helped so much. It's massively speeding up my progress and I can see myself reaching the end goal in the near future!

How are they being "impatient" when they genuinely aren't getting results? Aren't they supposed to report what results they are actually getting? If people get criticized for not reporting actual results, then it creates a groupthink atmosphere that discourages people from reporting their results

(10-22-2016, 12:37 PM)Alpha360 Wrote:

(10-22-2016, 12:26 PM)THolt Wrote:

(10-21-2016, 10:32 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: It's normal that you're gonna have impatient people, Shannon. Don't let it discourage you. Although I am sure you will use it as fuel to achieve greatness. I'd like to thank you for working so hard on this subliminal. It's definitely helped so much. It's massively speeding up my progress and I can see myself reaching the end goal in the near future!

How are they being "impatient" when they genuinely aren't getting results? Aren't they supposed to report what results they are actually getting? If people get criticized for not reporting actual results, then it creates a groupthink atmosphere that discourages people from reporting their results

The problem is not people reporting they don't have results, that's normal. The problem is if we complain the product doesn't work as a finished product (achieve the goals) when it is not a finished product, it's in testing phase.

But I guess it's a natural frustration of seeing other getting results while they don't have it.
Or that they are resisting the sub badly and feeling bad as a results, when that happens we sometimes have an urge to hate the subliminal for no logical reason.
Which happened a lot of already, feeling of hopelessness, etc. So let's not get too bitter about those who are complaining maybe they are in a bad resistance from Sub.

(10-22-2016, 12:42 PM)THolt Wrote:

(10-22-2016, 12:37 PM)Alpha360 Wrote:

(10-22-2016, 12:26 PM)THolt Wrote:

(10-21-2016, 10:32 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: It's normal that you're gonna have impatient people, Shannon. Don't let it discourage you. Although I am sure you will use it as fuel to achieve greatness. I'd like to thank you for working so hard on this subliminal. It's definitely helped so much. It's massively speeding up my progress and I can see myself reaching the end goal in the near future!

How are they being "impatient" when they genuinely aren't getting results? Aren't they supposed to report what results they are actually getting? If people get criticized for not reporting actual results, then it creates a groupthink atmosphere that discourages people from reporting their results

The problem is not people reporting they don't have results, that's normal. The problem is if we complain the product doesn't work as a finished product (achieve the goals) when it is not a finished product, it's in testing phase.

But I guess it's a natural frustration of seeing other getting results while they don't have it.
Or that they are resisting the sub badly and feeling bad as a results, when that happens we sometimes have an urge to hate the subliminal for no logical reason.
Which happened a lot of already, feeling of hopelessness, etc. So let's not get too bitter about those who are complaining maybe they are in a bad resistance from Sub.

Yeah I can see that but I argue that people should report both the good results and the lack of results in certain areas. That's all I'm saying. Every report shouldn't be rosy and hyped.

(10-22-2016, 07:23 AM)Banksy Wrote: Shannon just a suggestion, maybe women would approach the user more if they appeared more shy and non-threatening. When I was younger girls used to approach me when I was kind of shy, they would still shit test me, but I would get a lot of attention, and they always came in groups. (Maybe to help their confidence). Come to think of it, women never really make a move unless they're backed by friends (unless they're eccentric). Maybe that's a good place to start. Just a thought.

EDIT: maybe make the aura half openness half sexiness. Although I don't believe that mindset would be productive in other areas of life, could have some fun just for a couple of months.

(10-22-2016, 07:23 AM)Banksy Wrote: Shannon just a suggestion, maybe women would approach the user more if they appeared more shy and non-threatening. When I was younger girls used to approach me when I was kind of shy, they would still shit test me, but I would get a lot of attention, and they always came in groups. (Maybe to help their confidence). Come to think of it, women never really make a move unless they're backed by friends (unless they're eccentric). Maybe that's a good place to start. Just a thought.

EDIT: maybe make the aura half openness half sexiness. Although I don't believe that mindset would be productive in other areas of life, could have some fun just for a couple of months.

(10-22-2016, 12:34 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-22-2016, 12:26 PM)THolt Wrote:

(10-21-2016, 10:32 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: It's normal that you're gonna have impatient people, Shannon. Don't let it discourage you. Although I am sure you will use it as fuel to achieve greatness. I'd like to thank you for working so hard on this subliminal. It's definitely helped so much. It's massively speeding up my progress and I can see myself reaching the end goal in the near future!

How are they being "impatient" when they genuinely aren't getting results? Aren't they supposed to report what results they are actually getting? If people get criticized for not reporting actual results, then it creates a groupthink atmosphere that discourages people from reporting their results

For me I'd like to see reports of what people ARE getting. It would help us understand what's going on more. Plus, sometimes people don't think anything's happening when it is. I've been approached twice by women while on DMSI. Both times were so subtle it would be missed by 99% of guys unless you understand how a girl "approaches".

Granted they weren't what we're after, but they were results.

(10-22-2016, 03:12 PM)Banksy Wrote:

(10-22-2016, 12:34 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(10-22-2016, 12:26 PM)THolt Wrote:

(10-21-2016, 10:32 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: It's normal that you're gonna have impatient people, Shannon. Don't let it discourage you. Although I am sure you will use it as fuel to achieve greatness. I'd like to thank you for working so hard on this subliminal. It's definitely helped so much. It's massively speeding up my progress and I can see myself reaching the end goal in the near future!

How are they being "impatient" when they genuinely aren't getting results? Aren't they supposed to report what results they are actually getting? If people get criticized for not reporting actual results, then it creates a groupthink atmosphere that discourages people from reporting their results

For me I'd like to see reports of what people ARE getting. It would help us understand what's going on more. Plus, sometimes people don't think anything's happening when it is. I've been approached twice by women while on DMSI. Both times were so subtle it would be missed by 99% of guys unless you understand how a girl "approaches".

Granted they weren't what we're after, but they were results.

I think this is a perfect example of how subjective these "results" can be. First of all how attractive are these girls to begin with, everyone has their own standards, and is in their own league.

(10-22-2016, 03:12 PM)Banksy Wrote: For example, if you're like super attractive, a non-attractive girl may ignore you or treat you bad because she sees you as above her league, while an attractive girl can be giving you all the signals. The reverse is true too, if you're not attractive a non-attractive girl may have more confidence towards you, and an attractive girl may ignore you. And then there may be a DMSI user who doesn't believe himself to be in a certain league, and get confused by these results. This is a very real dynamic.

(10-22-2016, 03:12 PM)Banksy Wrote: Then there's approach, when I say approach I mean like a girl walking up to you and starting a conversation / flirting with you. As a shy kid I remember an older (cute face nice ass 9.5/10) girl asking me to join a group where basically I could **** a bunch of girls no string attached. Basically no effort. (I turned it down) And I wouldn't consider myself necessarily an alpha male back then although I think I was pretty cool. Those are the kind of results I think DMSI is aiming for, and it happened for me when I was a shy non-aggressive kid. Although quite handsome. I don't think I would get that kind of result with my current attitude, even though I might be more attractive. [i]There's something to being shy. There may even be power in it.[/i]