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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - WIP68 - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 01:57 PM)RTBoss Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:51 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: I think Shannon has decided that 2.5 is going to happen. The question is when??

And the answer is... now. Got to get to the office first, but let's do this.

Cool. Add in a line, "If your Subliminal-Talk.com handle is RTBoss, you now last at least 3 minutes in bed." Thanks. Tongue

Awesome...

Looks like I'm now going to have to change my handle to 'Arty Boss' so I too can have TEN TIMES my current 2.4 staying power!!!!!

Baawahhaaahaahaaa....

The power is all going to my 'head' (pun intended)


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - 4Kingdoms - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 02:12 PM)CatMan Wrote: Since I'm one of the hard gainers you need information from for testing to refine the product not only for me but for others similar, I guess I have to switch then. Alright then, that's the end of that.

Are you going to try 2.5 when it's released?? or are you switching to another unrelated sub?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 02:15 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 02:12 PM)CatMan Wrote: Since I'm one of the hard gainers you need information from for testing to refine the product not only for me but for others similar, I guess I have to switch then. Alright then, that's the end of that.

Are you going to try 2.5 when it's released?? or are you switching to another unrelated sub?

Since I'm a hard gainer, and Shannon needs info from the group I'm a part of, not only to help US, but others like us, I have to switch. Otherwise, he won't have the info necessary to help us, and we can be left behind in results. So for me, in my situation, there's no choice, regardless of my personal feelings about the version itself.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Frosted - 10-09-2016

Shannon I feel like AM6 is more like the old alpha who has already achieved everything he wants. It's like AM is more about developing me than getting external results. I'm usually never the badass with all the attention. It's cool and all to be like this, because in the end the internal development is the most important but it kinda sucks that I don't get to have fun too :/. I don't get crazy reactions or attention from people it's like I am an invisible alpha only women can tell it seems and even then they give me interest but often because being the center of attention on AM6 is impossible they don't give me any overt attention (for me, it's like I don't want to talk I just want to be alone). I say that because it's like I'm the most alpha but at the same time it's like my alphaness is more like I'm an "individual alpha" like "oh look that guy is a rock, but he's not imposing himself on us so let's ignore him" lol not even that because they would have to recognize me in the first place.

I think I will start using mones to get more overt reactions from people/women and become more externally alpha. Maybe it's external validation seeking but I'd like to see some things and have some experiences before I "grow up" so to say because it's like AM6 is making me too mature when I haven't even achieved the things I am giving up. Like women, I'm like "nah not worth the effort" even though I don't have much experience with them so it can kinda feel fake sometimes like it's not backed up and I'm just making excuses for not pursuing. Again I feel pressure to chase women like I'm supposed to "take action" because of the pua stuff I read and also from guys on here on the forum but at the same time I don't want to but then I feel the judgement imagining their disapproval.

Btw please add destruction of dissapproval in AM7 because it is a real problem for me Shannon, thank you. Oh and please add destruction of over sensitivity so it is harder to get offended/insulted/provoked.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 02:00 PM)THolt Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:51 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: I think Shannon has decided that 2.5 is going to happen. The question is when??

And the answer is... now. Got to get to the office first, but let's do this.

So what will your action item on your list after 2.5 just out of curiosity?

I hope you you are recovering from your recent bouts of illness.

I'm not sure what you mean, but I am guessing you're asking what I'll be working on.

I'm working on MIR2 (still!) and the 6G prototype. At some point, a custom job, DMSI 3.0.1 and then MHS.

I am recovered significantly, but there seems to be lingering exhaustion. Thanks for your concern, though.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 02:39 PM)Frosted Wrote: Shannon I feel like AM6 is more like the old alpha who has already achieved everything he wants. It's like AM is more about developing me than getting external results. I'm usually never the badass with all the attention. It's cool and all to be like this, because in the end the internal development is the most important but it kinda sucks that I don't get to have fun too :/. I don't get crazy reactions or attention from people it's like I am an invisible alpha only women can tell it seems and even then they give me interest but often because being the center of attention on AM6 is impossible they don't give me any overt attention (for me, it's like I don't want to talk I just want to be alone). I say that because it's like I'm the most alpha but at the same time it's like my alphaness is more like I'm an "individual alpha" like "oh look that guy is a rock, but he's not imposing himself on us so let's ignore him" lol not even that because they would have to recognize me in the first place.

I think I will start using mones to get more overt reactions from people/women and become more externally alpha. Maybe it's external validation seeking but I'd like to see some things and have some experiences before I "grow up" so to say because it's like AM6 is making me too mature when I haven't even achieved the things I am giving up. Like women, I'm like "nah not worth the effort" even though I don't have much experience with them so it can kinda feel fake sometimes like it's not backed up and I'm just making excuses for not pursuing. Again I feel pressure to chase women like I'm supposed to "take action" because of the pua stuff I read and also from guys on here on the forum but at the same time I don't want to but then I feel the judgement imagining their disapproval.

Btw please add destruction of dissapproval in AM7 because it is a real problem for me Shannon, thank you. Oh and please add destruction of over sensitivity so it is harder to get offended/insulted/provoked.

You're not getting it. AM6 is ALL about self development, internal development, self mastery. Women, sex, pussy is a distraction. It's designed to get you to focus internally, not on getting attention and not on getting sex. You're only putting that stuff on pause while you develop yourself. If you're worried about getting attention, and seeking validation from others... you either need to use AM6 more (perhaps Stage 7), or go do something else when you're done with this run, because those are NOT alpha behaviors. Alpha doesn't need to be the center of attention. Alpha doesn't need validation from others. And alpha isn't desperate for sex.

Explain your addition requests further, please.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - eternity - 10-09-2016

Is there any particular length of time one should have run 2.4 before switching to 2.5? I'm about a week or so behind most others. At Day 25 or so right now.

And I know I'm smackdab in the middle of a healing process, so I think it would be unwise to switch during this, but I defer to you Shannon.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - THolt - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 03:06 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 02:00 PM)THolt Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:51 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: I think Shannon has decided that 2.5 is going to happen. The question is when??

And the answer is... now. Got to get to the office first, but let's do this.

So what will your action item on your list after 2.5 just out of curiosity?

I hope you you are recovering from your recent bouts of illness.

I'm not sure what you mean, but I am guessing you're asking what I'll be working on.

I'm working on MIR2 (still!) and the 6G prototype. At some point, a custom job, DMSI 3.0.1 and then MHS.

I am recovered significantly, but there seems to be lingering exhaustion. Thanks for your concern, though.
That's what I meant to ask. I worded that oddly. Lol

Sounds like fun times ahead for IML. I can only imagine where we'll in 6 months to a year


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 03:21 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: Is there any particular length of time one should have run 2.4 before switching to 2.5? I'm about a week or so behind most others. At Day 25 or so right now.

And I know I'm smackdab in the middle of a healing process, so I think it would be unwise to switch during this, but I defer to you Shannon.

2.5 is completely optional and voluntary. You don't have to run it at all. If you do, a rest period of 0 to 3 days is probably going to work.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 03:25 PM)THolt Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 03:06 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 02:00 PM)THolt Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-09-2016, 01:51 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: I think Shannon has decided that 2.5 is going to happen. The question is when??

And the answer is... now. Got to get to the office first, but let's do this.

So what will your action item on your list after 2.5 just out of curiosity?

I hope you you are recovering from your recent bouts of illness.

I'm not sure what you mean, but I am guessing you're asking what I'll be working on.

I'm working on MIR2 (still!) and the 6G prototype. At some point, a custom job, DMSI 3.0.1 and then MHS.

I am recovered significantly, but there seems to be lingering exhaustion. Thanks for your concern, though.
That's what I meant to ask. I worded that oddly. Lol

Sounds like fun times ahead for IML. I can only imagine where we'll in 6 months to a year

I'm certainly looking forward to it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Frosted - 10-09-2016

You say pussy is a distraction but all the guys on here are like "do it, don't be a bitch, don't make excuses". AM is making me care less about women but then I get the pressure like I have to approach when I don't want to and then I just feel like I'll be judged by the guys on here for not taking action when I don't want to and they'll be like "it's not that you don't want to you're just being a bitch/making excuses". Easy to say not to care what they think, but it's still there.

I'll elaborate on my requests. You told Ffaux that external disapproval destruction is not in AM6 so I was just throwing in that I wanted it in AM7. My personality type has problems with dealing with disapproval and also of over sensitivity (like a feeling like people are insulting my identity/values,it's cause of the infp personality, and infps are notourious for interpreting something as insulting when it was not meant to be), so even though I'm becoming more alpha it's like I have an achiles heal so to speak and if people find out about it they can keep pressing the button.

Oh, and please could you add something in to better deal with confrontations. My personality type shuts down in confrontation.

Also something to make it so you don't care about other guys AMOGing you cause that gets annoying real fast I just want to do my thing and all these guys are coming in like I challenged them or some shit.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Frosted - 10-09-2016

Also Shannon, after we are done with AM6 will we not want relationships with women anymore since we are complete inside? Will we only want sex and nothing else?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 04:15 PM)Frosted Wrote: You say pussy is a distraction but all the guys on here are like "do it, don't be a bitch, don't make excuses". AM is making me care less about women but then I get the pressure like I have to approach when I don't want to and then I just feel like I'll be judged by the guys on here for not taking action when I don't want to and they'll be like "it's not that you don't want to you're just being a bitch/making excuses". Easy to say not to care what they think, but it's still there.

When you are trying to focus inwardly, sex and women (outward focii) are a distraction. You cab focus inwardly and grow inwardly, or you can focus outwardly.

Why does it matter what anyone else wants? Do you think I give a flying rat's ass what anyone else wants me to do when it comes to me approaching or not approaching a woman? Why do you suppose that is? It's because I am my own leader, and I supply myself with my permission and validation. So the only reasons I do not approach a woman I do not approach are:

1. I'm not interested, or
2. I choose to respect the fact that she is involved.

Why does it matter if someone else wants you to go approach? Who cares! You are your own man, and you make your own decisions and do your own thing. Those who disagree can go do something else.

And if/when they start slinging around names like bitch and pussy for the man who does his own thing, they're just trying to test you. If you really have self mastery, you'll ignore them, laugh at them or do something other than care about what they say. When people attack me for not doing what they want me to do, I don't comply. I generally ignore them, or if they push hard enough, I tell them that I do my own decision making and they can go do something else. (Very toned down version of what I would say, btw. Smile )

It doesn't matter hat they want. It matters what you want. You do your thing, and they can deal or wheel.

Quote:I'll elaborate on my requests. You told Ffaux that external disapproval destruction is not in AM6 so I was just throwing in that I wanted it in AM7. My personality type has problems with dealing with disapproval and also of over sensitivity (like a feeling like people are insulting my identity/values,it's cause of the infp personality, and infps are notourious for interpreting something as insulting when it was not meant to be), so even though I'm becoming more alpha it's like I have an achiles heal so to speak and if people find out about it they can keep pressing the button.

AM6 has something in it for dealing with external disapproval. I didn't understand what he was asking then.

You don't have an Achille's heel. You just have to finish becoming.

Quote:Oh, and please could you add something in to better deal with confrontations. My personality type shuts down in confrontation.

You're asking for improved clearing and healing, which is planned.

Quote:Also something to make it so you don't care about other guys AMOGing you cause that gets annoying real fast I just want to do my thing and all these guys are coming in like I challenged them or some shit.

As a self directed man, you're going to deal with insecure wanna-bes. You're also going to have to learn to deal with them and put them in their place, or make the decision to ignore them. It's going to depend on the specifics of the situation, but well chosen words are always a very good way of dealing with it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Steven - 10-09-2016

Shannon,

I have an idea. Why not take a few days off and rejuvenate?

I mean sure I'd love to have you devote your every waking moment to DMSI v3.x, but lets be reasonable. You devote a lot of time to us via developing products or writing on here or who knows what else.

Take some time for yourself. Hang out with your gf. Spend time with your dog(s). I don't know...