(10-09-2016, 12:19 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:15 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: My question is the overall changes in the program versions between 2.3 and 2.4

From product page:

Quote:V2.4 Adjustments/additions:

Many tweaks in many different areas of the script and modules.
Added and optimized SEBAM tech module.
Added and optimized MAFE tech module.
Addedand optimized RIFX tech module.
Added added and optimized MIIX tech module.
Tripled the number of statements in the SATT module.
Enabled SVX and focused it on achieving the goals ofthe program.
Optimized ATMX module.
Enabled the OGSF module and all related sub-modules, and focused them on achieving the goals of the program.
Added the surprise.
Heavily modified and optimized the goal phrasing.

That's the technology and also why I mentioned the product page.

EDIT: The surprise is P3

(10-09-2016, 12:22 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:16 PM)Weichi Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Unless those modules don't short circuiting and Shannon want to check that.

Then V2.3 would've been a step forward in results, but it wasn't. So it seems the test was already done and feedback showed they weren't in the way. And the reason V2.2 failed was because of a discovered script error, not the healing modules. They were red herrings. So I just feel this test would be redundant, and am hesitant to go off the healing benefits of V2.4 due to that is all.

(10-09-2016, 12:22 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:16 PM)Weichi Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Unless those modules don't short circuiting and Shannon want to check that.

Then V2.3 would've been a step forward in results, but it wasn't. So it seems the test was already done and feedback showed they weren't in the way. And the reason V2.2 failed was because of a discovered script error, not the healing modules. They were red herrings. So I just feel this test would be redundant, and am hesitant to go off the healing benefits of V2.4 due to that is all.

(10-09-2016, 12:25 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:22 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:16 PM)Weichi Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Unless those modules don't short circuiting and Shannon want to check that.

Then V2.3 would've been a step forward in results, but it wasn't. So it seems the test was already done and feedback showed they weren't in the way. And the reason V2.2 failed was because of a discovered script error, not the healing modules. They were red herrings. So I just feel this test would be redundant, and am hesitant to go off the healing benefits of V2.4 due to that is all.

I exchanged a few messages with Bogdy and he also posted on the forum before - he stayed with v2.3 and he said that he had amazing results. It took 3 weeks for the program to kick in for him, but he said that after that his results on 2.3 had been solid.

It could be that we never gave that version enough time to get a proper test from.

(10-09-2016, 12:28 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:22 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:16 PM)Weichi Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Unless those modules don't short circuiting and Shannon want to check that.

Then V2.3 would've been a step forward in results, but it wasn't. So it seems the test was already done and feedback showed they weren't in the way. And the reason V2.2 failed was because of a discovered script error, not the healing modules. They were red herrings. So I just feel this test would be redundant, and am hesitant to go off the healing benefits of V2.4 due to that is all.

There are two points which would make 2.5 interesting. First, the advanced technology in comparison to 2.3, which might help with reaching the goal even with some things to clear left. Second, most users did run 2.4 for about a month (and more than a month until release). So this could have been enough healing for some to see at least some kind of results.

(10-09-2016, 12:35 PM)CatMan Wrote: But if there has been enough healing taking place for V2.4 to work, then it would be working, negating the need for V2.5. And again, the healing modules short circuit when not needed, so they aren't impeding progress towards the goal.

(10-09-2016, 12:30 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:25 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:22 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:16 PM)Weichi Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Unless those modules don't short circuiting and Shannon want to check that.

Then V2.3 would've been a step forward in results, but it wasn't. So it seems the test was already done and feedback showed they weren't in the way. And the reason V2.2 failed was because of a discovered script error, not the healing modules. They were red herrings. So I just feel this test would be redundant, and am hesitant to go off the healing benefits of V2.4 due to that is all.

I exchanged a few messages with Bogdy and he also posted on the forum before - he stayed with v2.3 and he said that he had amazing results. It took 3 weeks for the program to kick in for him, but he said that after that his results on 2.3 had been solid.

It could be that we never gave that version enough time to get a proper test from.

"Amazing results". As in, getting aggressively pursued for sex by attractive women and having sex with them easily? That's the program goal, let's not get distracted by vague hyperbole. I'm not being ignorant, just trying to be clear and objective, accurate is all.

(10-09-2016, 12:42 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: Well he did say women have been more aggressively pursuing him and he landed his first girlfriend in 4 years. I'd say that was pretty good. I wish I had a link to his forum posting; I need to dig it out.

Now, while that may not be exactly the same as what you and I are looking for, it suited what he wanted. That can't be ignored.

(10-09-2016, 12:48 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:42 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: Well he did say women have been more aggressively pursuing him and he landed his first girlfriend in 4 years. I'd say that was pretty good. I wish I had a link to his forum posting; I need to dig it out.

Now, while that may not be exactly the same as what you and I are looking for, it suited what he wanted. That can't be ignored.

I don't mean to ignore it at all, don't get me wrong.

I haven't seen that post.

I'm just saying one person getting something on a program proves he may be satisfied, that's great. But when it isn't the end goal of the program, while it IS great, and almost everybody else struggled to see end goal results, I don't know what the benefit is returning to that a second time. It seemed crystal clear clearing was needed to advance. Maybe a longer run on V2.4 will prove to give valuable data, for like 64 days, or until November 1st and then switch to V3.0.1. That could show something unique, as we have yet to run a working aura/clearing version for awhile, due to V2.2 having a script error negating the aura effects. So we aren't sure yet what's possible for a longer term aura/clearing version.

(10-09-2016, 01:05 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: I would only suggest a 2.5 if it doesn't require a lot of time and effort for Shannon to create a build for it. If it's another week or two long project, I agree, I think it would be better served for him and everyone here if he continued to build 3.0.1.

(10-09-2016, 01:05 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:48 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(10-09-2016, 12:42 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: Well he did say women have been more aggressively pursuing him and he landed his first girlfriend in 4 years. I'd say that was pretty good. I wish I had a link to his forum posting; I need to dig it out.

Now, while that may not be exactly the same as what you and I are looking for, it suited what he wanted. That can't be ignored.

I don't mean to ignore it at all, don't get me wrong.

I haven't seen that post.

I'm just saying one person getting something on a program proves he may be satisfied, that's great. But when it isn't the end goal of the program, while it IS great, and almost everybody else struggled to see end goal results, I don't know what the benefit is returning to that a second time. It seemed crystal clear clearing was needed to advance. Maybe a longer run on V2.4 will prove to give valuable data, for like 64 days, or until November 1st and then switch to V3.0.1. That could show something unique, as we have yet to run a working aura/clearing version for awhile, due to V2.2 having a script error negating the aura effects. So we aren't sure yet what's possible for a longer term aura/clearing version.

Well, the idea of running the program for a while could also be used as an argument for 2.3. I don't know what the longest anyone ran 2.3 for was, but I don't think anyone ran it for 32 days.

We've had a full month on 2.4, (actually for me it's going on 35 days now), and while the healing has been fun, I would be curious to give DMSI a full run through without the healing. It was my goal to go back to 2.3 after 45 days if I still didn't see results.

I wouldn't mind testing 2.5 - and I only say this because I don't think Shannon knows how long it will be before he will have a chance to build 3.0.

I would only suggest a 2.5 if it doesn't require a lot of time and effort for Shannon to create a build for it. If it's another week or two long project, I agree, I think it would be better served for him and everyone here if he continued to build 3.0.1.