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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Illumi - 08-17-2016

@NovaCane If ASC is your first sub then be ready for the best time in your life, i've been in your shoes bro! ASC started hitting me hard within 3 days and kept building up confidence. Man the happines i got when i first realised all the bad things i've been throigh could be changed and seeing how positivly people reacted to me! Man no drug in this world could make me as happy as i was!

Then i got greedy and started AM6 , which did not really help me with women but it basicly removed a huge boulder that was slowing me down, i would never replace my AM6 run with anything. AM6 is like a very strict mentor that knows whats best for you, you may not love him but its impossible to hate or deny what he has done for you Smile

Im kinda envious of you to be honest! Im waay past many fears and negative things, but its not really that fun if all you want is to improve all the time. You lose your appreciation of what you have and how good you became. And all you think about is what next!

Is that a good or a bad thing though? Maybe well never know!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Illumi - 08-17-2016

(08-17-2016, 04:02 AM)NovaCane Wrote:
(08-17-2016, 03:36 AM)Kurohawk Wrote: @NovaCane If ASC is your first sub then be ready for the best time in your life, i've been in your shoes bro! ASC started hitting me hard within 3 days and kept building up confidence. Man the happines i got when i first realised all the bad things i've been throigh could be changed and seeing how positivly people reacted to me! Man no drug in this world could make me as happy as i was!

Then i got greedy and started AM6 , which did not really help me with women but it basicly removed a huge boulder that was slowing me down, if would never replace my AM6 run with anything. AM6 is like a very strict mentor that knows whats best for you, you may not love him but its impossible to hate or deny what he has done for you Smile

Im kinda envious of you to be honest! Im waay past many fears and negative things, but its not really that fun if all you want is to improve all the time. You lose your appreciation of what you have and how good you became. And all you think about is what next!

Is that a good or a bad thing though? Maybe well never know!

Thanks bruh. I'm glad to hear this.
I'm on it!
Two quick questions man:

How long do you think it would take ASC. to become my permanent programming, before I move to E2?

Are you able to approach women in public now?
Im not that out going yet but i can occasionally approach random people, the trick is when i dont think about it. And even through i still approach i still have sticking points mainly my inexperiance. With that being said here is what i think on ASC and E2
And lastly i've been rejected and been humiliated so many times while trying i slack off sometimes.

Lets say you are a car, ASC will give you a turbo boost to make you much faster. E2 is more of fix you from a model 1995 car into 2016 so that you naturally be fast on your own. However that does not limit you into a certain sub. You could be running ASC and develop into a faster car on your own.

If its to become good with women, then simpily speaking the more you get laid the better you get. And by getting laid alot that could autocorrect many of your beliefes.
Dont fall into the trap that is without E2 i cant heal on my own or without ASC i cant be more confident.


Anyways that how i think of it, i could be wrong and many E2 users could tell you much more about it than i could.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - hunk - 08-17-2016

@Shannon:
First of all, happy birthday. Hope you have a good one. Now I know your avatar pic represents your sun sign (Leo).

(08-16-2016, 05:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: Do I want to release 2.3, or Stage 1 (2.4) and Stage 2 (2.3) or do I want to deal with all the claims of "placebo" by releasing three subliminals labeled A, B and C, with one of them being 2.3 in ultrasonic, one being an ultrasonic subliminal audio of the words "Somewhere in the world, people are walking.", and one being the ultrasonic subliminalized trickling stream (no instruction set)?

And... oh no! that doesn't sound good Sad

My vote will be for releasing the straight up version 2.3 (no double blind testing please). A v2.4 with healing enabled sounds like a good follow up, but again no double blind testing please. Depending on the results and feedback, a first stage, second stage requirement could be mandated.

I started reading about DMSI a little less than 2 weeks ago and have been waiting for 2.3 to be released so I could test it on my upcoming holiday to Barcelona and Paris. I do realise the program is still in testing phase and am willing to test the following two items, per the product page:

Please keep in mind that it is as yet uncertain how far away from you this programs effects extend for affecting those around you. As a tester, this is one of the things we need to discover. Please give feedback on this.

Please note that it is uncertain how and how quickly the effects of this program on others make themselves known to them. As a tester, this is one of the things we need to discover. Please give feedback on this.

All the best for whichever way you decide about releasing the next version.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - chaosvrgn - 08-17-2016

I'm not a fan of the double blind testing either. I think a small minority -- who haven't even used DMSI (like Ben and 4Kingdoms pointed out) -- are drowning out the voices of those who actually want to contribute.

At this point, the only "negative" feedback I'd consider is CatMan because he's actually used DMSI and his feedback is constructive. I still think he's stonewalling the program or allowing his skepticism to cloud his vision. I think he said he's an ENTP -- they're a naturally argumentative, "solid in their views" type.

Not trying to be a jerkface, but... maybe Shannon should've made a private DMSI forum for verified testers only. No buy, no entry. Forces people to really invest in the program and not sling sh*t from the sidelines.

I'm totally down for the 2.4 healing though. I was actually starting to look forward to it. Was thinking about my results last night and it's GOTTA be the year of healing and self-development prompted by a year of AM6.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - 4Kingdoms - 08-17-2016

(08-17-2016, 06:35 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: I'm not a fan of the double blind testing either. I think a small minority -- who haven't even used DMSI (like Ben and 4Kingdoms pointed out) -- are drowning out the voices of those who actually want to contribute.

At this point, the only "negative" feedback I'd consider is CatMan because he's actually used DMSi and his feedback is constructive. I still think he's stonewalling the program or allowing his skepticism to cloud his vision. I think he said he's an ENTP -- they're a naturally argumentative, "solid in their views" type.

Not trying to be a jerkface, but... maybe Shannon should've made a private DMSI forum for verified testers only. No buy, no entry. Forces people to really invest in the program and not sling sh*t from the sidelines.

I'm totally down for the 2.4 healing though. I was actually starting to look forward to it. Was thinking about my results last night and it's GOTTA be the year of healing and self-development prompted by a year of AM6.

I'm not sure if my journals were helpful towards improving DMSI. Yes I want it to work as well as it did for you Chaos. This double blind, maybe, maybe not... has soured my stomach.

I miss E2 and I'm going to start listening to it again. When the final cut of DMSI is released... I'll start listening to it again. In the meantime, I have some healing to do.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - chaosvrgn - 08-17-2016

(08-17-2016, 04:36 AM)Sash Wrote: atleast your good looking enough to get online matches and dates. Large majority of men can't get nothing online.

I'm a black man in the American historic south -- aka, the former slave states, aka the former Confederate States of America.

Trust me, my looks give me no advantage. What does give me an advantage is a refusal to accept societal conditioning, an unwavering loyalty to myself and my value system, and taking an intense look at life and reality.

Look -- whether you want to believe it or not, you have to realize that the dating scene is no different than any other market. There's a profound parallel between capitalism and the sexual marketplace. If your dating profile is designed to present you as a "cool dude" with the underlying message being "I want you to love me for who I am," you're gonna fail. Your profile should present what you have to offer in terms of value and improving a woman's life.

Essentially, your profile should have more in common with an Amazon item listing than a biography of your life (don't take this literally). Become comfortable with being a commodity, because that's pretty much what you are -- and that goes for women too. The subtext of any relationship (and men know it) is: I'm going to grant you limited access to my mental and physical resources (including my social network and social activities) in exchange for your companionship and sexual access on demand.

Women know this too, and are actively trying to change the sexual economic landscape with various social initiatives. The whole, "YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO MY BODY, SH*TLORD" crap that you see these days? Think about it -- what do you think the goal is for that? Yep, increased bargaining power in relationships. Artificially increase the price of sex and men who are either ignorant of the marketplace trends or refuse to believe them will pay it.

This is my goal as a modern man: Invest as little as possible to gain as much sex and companionship as possible. I keep track of how much I spend on each woman and I try to keep the monetary investment below $50 until we're having sex on a regular basis. Then, I'll up the amount a little bit.

HOWEVER, the only way you can pull this off is if you have something else of value so that you can get away with not buying drinks and dinner. Instead of wanting women to "love you for who you are," make yourself a man of value that women want.

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Or, stop p*ssing Shannon off long enough for him to make DMSI into a masterpiece. People went nuts when I suggested that Shannon could sell a fully-realized version @ $500, but they were being shortsighted. You spend $70 on a dinner with a woman. You go on six dates in a summer and you've sent $500. One payment to him for $500 and boom.

Oh yeah, happy b-day Shannon. Smile


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Greenduck - 08-17-2016

I'm running E2 and I had a though about how the speed a subliminal work on an individual inflect upon how the results are perceived.

Say with E2, if I would be totally "healed" in 8 days. What would that be like? Would I be ready to acclimatize to those changes and behave in the way that I would be if I would be totally healed? Or would I just "act" as healed and therefore be healed (read: fake it until you make it) and therefore presumably loose some important lessons on the way?

Could it be that DMSI speed will result in that the individual (even thanks to the healing aspect) will risk build superficial sexiness due to both having a program designed for speed (due to outside pressure on results by customers) as well as his own expectations on the speed of results?

I'm not a sexiness-grinch, but I know myself and other people having insecurities regarding my their sexuality, and the growth in that field should be hurried through but rather appreciates and fully incorporated.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - maxx55 - 08-17-2016

Happy Birthday Shannon! Hope you get a bunch of attention and have fun at that water park today Wink


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - alphabeta35 - 08-17-2016

(08-16-2016, 01:57 PM)K-Train Wrote:
(08-16-2016, 12:00 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: I think you are here really into something. I remember a while ago talking with a girl about how men have to do all the work by approaching women. She said, she was often approaching men (as she was single), but they didn't get it most times. There I said that the passive way you women do such things doesn't count. She laughed. So they might really believe they are approaching by doing all the stuff.

That's exactly what I'm talking about man and I'm going to address your post and Steven's post all at once. About 2 years ago former female friend/classmate of mine broke up with her BF at the time. She would text much more than is normal and my intuition kept telling me she was attracted and I should try something. To make a long story short...I was right.Tongue But not everyone would believe that to be obvious enough. Shit, I frankly don't think that was obvious so I can't blame others for missing shit like that.

i think both 'not seeing' the interest and not acting on it comes from the idea that we are not worthy/entitled. so that needs to be solved first before we get the results. and i am thinking this is a harder problem to solve than getting others to be attracted or interested in us (and going the rest of the way)...
i had a friend who would be called a 'natural' and he had this certain belief that he could attract ANY woman. i have seen many times girls holding hands with other guys still giving him smiles, looks etc.
i also have noticed with myself many times that when i am sure the girl wants to talk to me/see me etc, i am in a more flirty, talkative flowing state and everything just falls into place, i remember the perfect thing to say from the highschool yearbook i read 20 years ago (i swear this happened).
so if the subs get me in that flowing state, or remove the blockages, i can take care of the rest Smile that's my expectation, and so far AM6 has already exceeded that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - ncbeareatingman - 08-17-2016

Happy Birthday Shannon....many many blessings and lotsa fun this day and many more to come!! Keith.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 08-17-2016

(08-17-2016, 09:40 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Happy Birthday Shannon....many many blessings and lotsa fun this day and many more to come!! Keith.

Thanks you, Keith!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Multiworld - 08-17-2016

Happy Birthday Shannon as well because that date means a great deal to most of us on this forum and not,so have a good day,you made all of our days easier..Thankyou


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 08-17-2016

A massive Happy Birthday to you, Shannon. Thank you for all your diligence and hard work.

P.S. I'm sorry if my words were a part of the "stupid and useless criticism", that was never my intention. I was told my words had at least some degree of value, so maybe I spent too much time on my soapbox after that. I apologise. Although I haven't had any success yet with women, these subs have given me a CHANCE to do so. And I'm grateful for that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - RoaringLion - 08-17-2016

Happy Birthday Shannon. Enjoy it = D