(08-16-2016, 03:00 AM)yeah! Wrote: Did Ricardo get banned or sidelined or something?

(08-08-2016, 09:08 AM)Ricardo Wrote:

(08-06-2016, 04:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: I don't feel the aura at all anymore. Ever. But I sure as hell am getting the results! This leads me to believe that the aura is being projected on one or more "frequency bands" that are difficult to consciously sense, and/or that it can be gotten used to.

Shannon, what results are you getting exactly? You DMSI journal is showing the same misinterpreted behaviours, placebo and other BS as other journals here. The goal of the sub is "This program’s design goal is specifically to cause people who are of the gender you find sexually attractive to be irresistibly attracted to you and aroused by you sexually to the degree that they actually and repeatedly try to initiate and have as much physical sex with you as you allow them to"
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but have you and your friend had this yet? Even with your DGAF personas?

(08-16-2016, 07:37 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Ricardo's making the same mistake as a lot of other people -- they want the woman to initiate sex the way a man would. Overtly and aggressively. Women aren't going to initiate sex in the middle of the food court at the mall.

They keep referring to DMSI as an "IOI generator," not realizing that when a woman's giving IOI's, especially to the level that DMSI provokes, they're already soaking wet and they're just waiting for you to make a move. This isn't theory or speculation -- I've personally seen it play out like that while running my DMSI tests.

(08-16-2016, 07:45 AM)K-Train Wrote:

(08-16-2016, 07:37 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Ricardo's making the same mistake as a lot of other people -- they want the woman to initiate sex the way a man would. Overtly and aggressively. Women aren't going to initiate sex in the middle of the food court at the mall.

They keep referring to DMSI as an "IOI generator," not realizing that when a woman's giving IOI's, especially to the level that DMSI provokes, they're already soaking wet and they're just waiting for you to make a move. This isn't theory or speculation -- I've personally seen it play out like that while running my DMSI tests.

Yeah I agree man. Although we have to acknowledge though Chaos that because Shannon made the design goal what it is (cause attractive people to initiate physical sex) people are going to keep focusing on that and using it to judge the overall program despite all the other things the program is doing right.

However, here's the kicker though Chaosvrgn and you just mentioned it...the women who are affected who give these IOI's might believe that they ARE initiating sex. I've seen it before where a woman shoots a guy a barrel full of IOI's, the guy doesn't recognize it, and she gets frustrated because in her mind she's like "well damn, I made it OBVIOUS I want you to f*ck me, what gives?"

EDIT: Hey Chaos, I asked in a previous thread, but you probably didn't this question: how has life been since the thing with M? She hasn't tried any funny shit has she?

Chaosvrgn Wrote:Yea, Shannon is definitely an expert hype man. However, I refuse to believe that he's actively trying to mislead his customer base to generate profits. My personal theory is: he's a little disconnected from the modern man and miscalculated just how much society f*cked up male masculinity and assumed that DMSI would work as well for us as it does for him. For example: I've resisted a lot of societal conditioning AND I've been running AM6 for a year. In my head, when I saw "M" giving me crotch shots, I took immediate action and just jumped on it. That's because my psyche's been purged of a lot of gunk and I recognized that IOI for what it was -- "please, please, don't say anything, just take me now."

(08-16-2016, 08:53 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: I think adding eye contact, flirtation, body language into aura of sexiness V3 is not going to be useful. The program should be about developing an aura of sexiness, so powerful & strong it magnetically attracts women to you. I highly doubt adding flirtation, body language into it will make it better. We should focus on how can we make the aura/vibe/energy stronger & better. Let's focus on what we cannot see ( the aura ) vs what we can see ( body language, eye contact, flirtation, etc...)

(08-16-2016, 08:50 AM)K-Train Wrote:

Chaosvrgn Wrote:Yea, Shannon is definitely an expert hype man. However, I refuse to believe that he's actively trying to mislead his customer base to generate profits. My personal theory is: he's a little disconnected from the modern man and miscalculated just how much society f*cked up male masculinity and assumed that DMSI would work as well for us as it does for him. For example: I've resisted a lot of societal conditioning AND I've been running AM6 for a year. In my head, when I saw "M" giving me crotch shots, I took immediate action and just jumped on it. That's because my psyche's been purged of a lot of gunk and I recognized that IOI for what it was -- "please, please, don't say anything, just take me now."

I agree with most of this. I definitely don't think Shannon intentionally wanted to mislead anyone and that the purpose of DMSI's design goal was to aim for the stars and see how close he could get which lines up with who he is as a person. And he's getting close. Very close imo. I can see what you're saying on the detachment thing but I think this is negated a bit by the fact that Shannon really does listen to his customers and tries to appease them as much as he can which is sometimes to his detriment.

The societal conditioning definitely is a factor as well and contributes to a lot of the fear, guilt, and shame that other guys as well as myself have experienced that is no doubting affecting results. I feel that minus the goal phrasing mistake mentioned, DMSI V2.2 would have been the ideal choice for those who want long term success due to its healing modules. When V2.3 is released I'm curious to see if one (or all) of these three things happens:

1.) Most of the guys get great results which includes women showing blatant attraction and initiating sex

2.) If the guys who do get results sabotage themselves repeatedly (which may indicate some guilt, shame and fear needing to be eradicated)

3.) Nobody gets results.

I doubt #3 will happen but #1 and #2 I'm most curious about since there's no more healing modules. I think it does stand to reason though based off a post I read by forum member bits a couple days ago that even guys who struggle with women could improve themselves so long as DMSI works to continually give them enough opportunities.

(08-16-2016, 09:22 AM)Ricardo Wrote: No I understand that but women are tenacious and can be aggressive pursuers if they want the bloke enough. Believe me they will find ways of getting their man and will only fail if the man isn't interested at all. But they have to be THAT INTERESTED to begin with. They may smile or stare at you but they will
follow it up if it doesn't get results..bumping into you or something else to get your attention, even if it's days later. When you are in the line of fire you can't do anything wrong

Ricardo Wrote:Yes, after Shannon stated the limitations it went from being a sub that will make you irresistible, aggressively pursued and laid by hot women who you wouldn't normally get the chance to have...to a sub that is actually just going to put you in the best possible light, but don't expect to score with women who
previously didn't find you desirable.

Ricardo Wrote:Strange isn't it! You might be happy to go into a grocers for cabbages and
come out with carrots but I'm not. I just don't want to see guys here promised a hurricane of lust filled craziness only to end up with a wet fart.
While Shannon may have a shed load of acronyms when he talks about his work, it doesn't mean anything until they produce the results he's saying.
Ultimately he will be judged on his products, not his claptrap.

(08-16-2016, 09:22 AM)Ricardo Wrote: Chaosvrgn "Ricardo's making the same mistake as a lot of other people -- they want the woman to initiate sex the way a man would. Overtly and aggressively. Women aren't going to initiate sex in the middle of the food court at the mall. "

No I understand that but women are tenacious and can be aggressive pursuers if they want the bloke enough. Believe me they will find ways of getting their man and will only fail if the man isn't interested at all. But they have to be THAT INTERESTED to begin with. They may smile or stare at you but they will
follow it up if it doesn't get results..bumping into you or something else to get your attention, even if it's days later. When you are in the line of fire you can't do anything wrong

K-Train " To some extent, Ricardo may be right in that DMSI might not become as powerful as it COULD become however Shannon's already explained why certain things that could improve DMSI's effects can't be included due to Shannon's own principles."

Yes, after Shannon stated the limitations it went from being a sub that will make you irresistible, aggressively pursued and laid by hot women who you wouldn't normally get the chance to have...to a sub that is actually just going to put you in the best possible light, but don't expect to score with women who
previously didn't find you desirable.

K-train "Shannon made the design goal what it is (cause attractive people to initiate physical sex) people are going to keep focusing on that and using it to judge the overall program despite all the other things the program is doing right.

Strange isn't it! You might be happy to go into a grocers for cabbages and
come out with carrots but I'm not. I just don't want to see guys here promised a hurricane of lust filled craziness only to end up with a wet fart.
While Shannon may have a shed load of acronyms when he talks about his work, it doesn't mean anything until they produce the results he's saying.
Ultimately he will be judged on his products, not his claptrap.