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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-09-2016

(07-09-2016, 11:33 PM)dissonance Wrote: Also, to clarify, is the DMSI v2.1 designed to attract everyone of the opposite sex maximally, or scale to how sexually attractive you find the person to be? I remember for the poll, people voted for the maximal effect upon everyone of the opposite sex, but for the description in the product page, it sounds like it's the other option? ("sexually irresistible to people of the gender(s) you find sexually attractive, who you are personally sexually attracted to.").

It is full power all the time - for those who are specified within the goal phrasing.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-09-2016

(07-09-2016, 11:35 PM)Hercules Wrote:
(07-09-2016, 11:22 PM)dissonance Wrote:
(07-09-2016, 09:54 PM)Shannon Wrote: Chaos, much respect.

When I was, unbeknownst to me, being tested for qualification for Master class training, I was given a set of challenges that tested me to the very core. My superiors wanted to see what I would do with the kind of power that level of knowledge would give me, so they threw at me several experiences designed to force my hand and reveal who and what I really am.

Did those experiences make me angry? Abso-*****-lutely. I have spent my lifetime since, more than 2 decades, dissolving that anger.

Did I want to kill over it? Hell yes I did.

Was how they tested me fair? No ***** way. I will be damaged physically for the rest of my life. Ironically, they patterned the effects of some of my tests after the effects of my favorite fantasy character, Raistlin Majere. My lungs are permanently damaged, and extremely sensitive now, and unless I find a way to change that, they always will be. I smell another challenge there, but that's another story.

The point I am making is that they wanted to see if I have the self control I needed to be safe teaching that sort of knowledge to. They wanted to know what I really believe deep down. They wanted to see how strong I really am, when tempted, when angry, when pushed to my most extreme limits in terms of frustration, anger, mistreatment, exhaustion and other ways.

The passing grade only came because I mastered my anger, instead of allowing it to master me. I didn't use my knowledge or power or skill to harm anyone else. Instead, I left those who had done me wrong to their own well-earned just desserts. Someone wiser than I would make a better judge for them, I concluded. And it took some time, but those people all got what was coming to them. One even died homeless, penniless and drug addicted in a gutter - a worse fate than I would ever have wished on her. Had I had my druthers, her life would have ended quite rapidly. Instead, I later found out, she suffered unbelievably for over a decade before she died. And the others suffered in other ways, just as much.

But in the mean time, because I had released them, I wasn't wasting my time trying to "get even". I continued to grow, advance, and become even better, stronger, more skilled and more successful. And one of the seeds that grew out of those tests was this business. Because those lung issues I have forced me to find a way to make a living outside the military, firefighters, police or some other more conventional way of making a positive impact on society.

The seeds of my potential for making a positive difference in this world grew out of some of the greatest injustices anyone could have been forced to endure. And that is what I am talking about. Turn it into motivation to remove from the world the injustice that was done to you, and do it in a positive way.

Master class training?

Quote from Anger Management Sub

"This program is designed to help in dealing with anger management problems. It is designed to work through three separate techniques:

1. It defuses triggers to the anger response.
2. It disconnects the user from the anger itself.
3. It causes the listener to let go of and release both anger that has been built up inside, and flare ups as well.

With time and use, the result is that the person is in effect trained to deal with their anger issues in ways that prevent most of the problems before they become problems, and produces effective coping responses as well.

I created this program to help me through a period in my life in which I was suffering greivous wrongs that were making me extremely angry, but if I acted on that anger it would have made things much worse. It made my life vastly better in the short and long term."

Seems like he was involved with people who wanted to test him to see his worthiness for information. Although doing somethingto damage the lungs is counter intuitive since that is where you get your connection to life from. I may be wrong.

But Shannon, what does the anger scripting in EPHRA 2 consist of.

Damaging my lungs was how I was forced in the direction of subliminals. It was a "gift" that way. My badge of honor at having passed the test that it originated from.

The scripting for anger in E2 is much more advanced, and is designed to transform the anger into it's revers, and wisdom, and unconditional love. It is also designed to get you to forgive those you're angry with, such that you are no longer self destructing through anger they are not being affected by anyway.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - eternity - 07-09-2016

(07-09-2016, 09:54 PM)Shannon Wrote: Chaos, much respect.

When I was, unbeknownst to me, being tested for qualification for Master class training, I was given a set of challenges that tested me to the very core. My superiors wanted to see what I would do with the kind of power that level of knowledge would give me, so they threw at me several experiences designed to force my hand and reveal who and what I really am.

Did those experiences make me angry? Abso-*****-lutely. I have spent my lifetime since, more than 2 decades, dissolving that anger.

Did I want to kill over it? Hell yes I did.

Was how they tested me fair? No ***** way. I will be damaged physically for the rest of my life. Ironically, they patterned the effects of some of my tests after the effects of my favorite fantasy character, Raistlin Majere. My lungs are permanently damaged, and extremely sensitive now, and unless I find a way to change that, they always will be. I smell another challenge there, but that's another story.

The point I am making is that they wanted to see if I have the self control I needed to be safe teaching that sort of knowledge to. They wanted to know what I really believe deep down. They wanted to see how strong I really am, when tempted, when angry, when pushed to my most extreme limits in terms of frustration, anger, mistreatment, exhaustion and other ways.

The passing grade only came because I mastered my anger, instead of allowing it to master me. I didn't use my knowledge or power or skill to harm anyone else. Instead, I left those who had done me wrong to their own well-earned just desserts. Someone wiser than I would make a better judge for them, I concluded. And it took some time, but those people all got what was coming to them. One even died homeless, penniless and drug addicted in a gutter - a worse fate than I would ever have wished on her. Had I had my druthers, her life would have ended quite rapidly. Instead, I later found out, she suffered unbelievably for over a decade before she died. And the others suffered in other ways, just as much.

But in the mean time, because I had released them, I wasn't wasting my time trying to "get even". I continued to grow, advance, and become even better, stronger, more skilled and more successful. And one of the seeds that grew out of those tests was this business. Because those lung issues I have forced me to find a way to make a living outside the military, firefighters, police or some other more conventional way of making a positive impact on society.

The seeds of my potential for making a positive difference in this world grew out of some of the greatest injustices anyone could have been forced to endure. And that is what I am talking about. Turn it into motivation to remove from the world the injustice that was done to you, and do it in a positive way.

i too would like to know about this master class training, and why such a training was so dark in its core. It doesn't add up to me.

but thank you Shannon, for being transparent about your past on this issue. It gives me a greater understanding and greater sense of empathy for why you do what you do, the way you do it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-10-2016

(07-09-2016, 11:52 PM)eternitys_child Wrote:
(07-09-2016, 09:54 PM)Shannon Wrote: Chaos, much respect.

When I was, unbeknownst to me, being tested for qualification for Master class training, I was given a set of challenges that tested me to the very core. My superiors wanted to see what I would do with the kind of power that level of knowledge would give me, so they threw at me several experiences designed to force my hand and reveal who and what I really am.

Did those experiences make me angry? Abso-*****-lutely. I have spent my lifetime since, more than 2 decades, dissolving that anger.

Did I want to kill over it? Hell yes I did.

Was how they tested me fair? No ***** way. I will be damaged physically for the rest of my life. Ironically, they patterned the effects of some of my tests after the effects of my favorite fantasy character, Raistlin Majere. My lungs are permanently damaged, and extremely sensitive now, and unless I find a way to change that, they always will be. I smell another challenge there, but that's another story.

The point I am making is that they wanted to see if I have the self control I needed to be safe teaching that sort of knowledge to. They wanted to know what I really believe deep down. They wanted to see how strong I really am, when tempted, when angry, when pushed to my most extreme limits in terms of frustration, anger, mistreatment, exhaustion and other ways.

The passing grade only came because I mastered my anger, instead of allowing it to master me. I didn't use my knowledge or power or skill to harm anyone else. Instead, I left those who had done me wrong to their own well-earned just desserts. Someone wiser than I would make a better judge for them, I concluded. And it took some time, but those people all got what was coming to them. One even died homeless, penniless and drug addicted in a gutter - a worse fate than I would ever have wished on her. Had I had my druthers, her life would have ended quite rapidly. Instead, I later found out, she suffered unbelievably for over a decade before she died. And the others suffered in other ways, just as much.

But in the mean time, because I had released them, I wasn't wasting my time trying to "get even". I continued to grow, advance, and become even better, stronger, more skilled and more successful. And one of the seeds that grew out of those tests was this business. Because those lung issues I have forced me to find a way to make a living outside the military, firefighters, police or some other more conventional way of making a positive impact on society.

The seeds of my potential for making a positive difference in this world grew out of some of the greatest injustices anyone could have been forced to endure. And that is what I am talking about. Turn it into motivation to remove from the world the injustice that was done to you, and do it in a positive way.

i too would like to know about this master class training, and why such a training was so dark in its core. It doesn't add up to me.

but thank you Shannon, for being transparent about your past on this issue. It gives me a greater understanding and greater sense of empathy for why you do what you do, the way you do it.

The more dangerous the knowledge, the more care is required in making sure that only those who would use it wisely and for the good of all have access to it. At the highest levels of mastery in some such subjects, the testing is all or nothing: you live if you pass, and you remove the threat you pose by dying if you fail. Even those who pass are usually scarred physically and emotionally in some way or ways as a result of the extreme challenge these tests present. I was relatively lucky among those who I can consider equals for having passed similar tests; I only suffered scarred lungs and incredible anger and hurt emotionally. There are those having passed these tests who have suffered far worse fates than I.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-10-2016

Still being very surprised at what's passing the modeling runs for the goal phrasing in V2.2. Some really interesting stuff here. I wish I could share it with you. Instead, I'll just have to tease you with posts like this, instead. BWA-hahahaha! Wink


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - dissonance - 07-10-2016

Wait what kind of testing is it for? A martial art? Or is that the part that you're saying you are not at liberty to tell?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Natious - 07-10-2016

Shannon the trained spy. Now with a masters.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-10-2016

(07-10-2016, 12:29 AM)dissonance Wrote: Wait what kind of testing is it for? A martial art? Or is that the part that you're saying you are not at liberty to tell?

I am not at liberty to say.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-10-2016

(07-10-2016, 12:32 AM)Natious Wrote: Shannon the trained spy. Now with a masters.

LOL! I would die very quickly as a spy. Sorry.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - dissonance - 07-10-2016

(07-10-2016, 12:32 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-10-2016, 12:29 AM)dissonance Wrote: Wait what kind of testing is it for? A martial art? Or is that the part that you're saying you are not at liberty to tell?

I am not at liberty to say. Smile

oooh okay got it


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - JackOfHearts - 07-10-2016

(07-10-2016, 12:26 AM)Shannon Wrote: Still being very surprised at what's passing the modeling runs for the goal phrasing in V2.2. Some really interesting stuff here. I wish I could share it with you. Instead, I'll just have to tease you with posts like this, instead. BWA-hahahaha! Wink

Write a book about it Rolleyes


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - lokko - 07-10-2016

Is it me or is anyone else constantly checking these threads for breakthroughs in sub creation lol


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 07-10-2016

(07-10-2016, 12:37 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: Shannon, you remind me of a cross breed between Yoda and Deadpool Cool

I haven't watched anything to do with Deadpool, so I don't know what that references.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 07-10-2016

(07-10-2016, 12:32 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(07-10-2016, 12:29 AM)dissonance Wrote: Wait what kind of testing is it for? A martial art? Or is that the part that you're saying you are not at liberty to tell?

I am not at liberty to say.

You are really good at teasing us, not only with sub technology Big Grin