(07-08-2016, 10:39 AM)DisneylandUSA Wrote: Have you received medical treatment for depression ? it may assist you

(07-08-2016, 10:39 AM)DisneylandUSA Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 05:14 AM)Natious Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 03:20 AM)CatMan Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: Hey guys.

I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.

Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...

In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.

Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)

Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!

In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?

That's exactly what the program seems to do...

Works under the surface, almost TOO well. The result is you not really seeing much different for a long time, and this odd, latent, crappy, depressed feeling in the background and a massive loss of motivation to do things. That's exactly my experience, too. You just seem to vegitate while it does it's thing, keep in mind lethargy is also a common form of resistance. So yes, all of us are going through the "silent monk/lone wolf" phase on E2, lol...

It took me a good 35-40 days to see some signs of tangible life from it, I guess some of us, it takes a long time, either due to resistance, or due to us not seeing what it's doing for a long time as it's subtle and under the surface mostly.

Short answer: it's exactly as it should be. Stick with it longer, and you'll see more things changing. You won't know how exactly it's changed you until you're in a situation that you struggled with in the past, and can finally have a measure to compare now versus then for progress. Until then, it'll mostly be the experience described while it does it's job.

Keep going, Don Corleone!

Instead of being this incredibly painful journey to heal, it's way more stable low mood, until it starts going back up again. I couldn't even begin to imagine how hard it would be to deal with those things without E2, on my own. Today I'm having a quite relaxed and positive day after a long time of feeling depressed. It will get better for you too!

The waves and severity of the depression seems to vary from person to person. I am actually quite glad that these things get dealt with under the surface, doing this consciously could be quite painful and hard.

Have you received medical treatment for depression ? it may assist you

(07-06-2016, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?

(07-08-2016, 03:12 AM)Gotcha Wrote: Hey guys.

I'm on day 38 of E2, at 12-15 hrs per day. Not really noticing any effects besides a slight depression and major lack of motivation.
I read reports from fellow E2 listeners having vivid dreams and feelings of joy or happiness, but I don't recall ANY dreams or any feelings besides depression on E2. My baseline emotional state before starting E2 was normally "happy", I might add.

Hardly any interest in women, or hanging out with friends since a week into E2. Last two weeks I'm a hermit, playing videogames and wathing NetFlix in my lonesome...

In the beginning I got fatigued from listening 16+ hours, so I scaled down to 8 and worked my way up to where I can do 12+ without feeling burned out, but I'm still tired.

Is this resistance? Is E2 working for me? Should I do more/less hours? Should I be doing something to "help" E2? (I just press play, no meditation or whatever tapping is)

Gaah, I'm all over the place with these doubts and insecurities!

In short; is there a light at the end of this E2 tunnel, or am I seeing the train a comin'?

(07-08-2016, 12:59 PM)bogdy Wrote:

(07-06-2016, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?

SORRY FOR BEEING TOO LATE! BUT YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

Damn shannon i want this!

(07-08-2016, 02:28 PM)Tobi Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 01:09 PM)Natious Wrote: I see that 2 people got to answer before I did. But I agree with the both of them. Medication can only suppress the symptoms and the real problem will be hidden only to slowly take away at your life. All self medication is the same. 2 people that I know have been using anti-depressants for 10+ years and to be honest they are incredibly unhealthy emotionally. Both of them have countless of buried issues and lives that have pretty much already ended.
The anti-depressants are one of the most profitable drugs sold by the pharmaceutical companies. So no wonder they are keen on keeping people on the IV drip for as long as possible.

I dony think just profability is behind all ot it. It seems more and more the political idea is less about changing yourself to more "I am a victim of my enviroment and forced to do this" this has become the political paradigm lately and is becoming worse

Despression is accepterd to be a chemical imabalance causee by genetics with not many ways to change it. People belive that its not your beleilfs or weakness that causes is, but a genetic "destiny".

(07-08-2016, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 12:59 PM)bogdy Wrote:

(07-06-2016, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?

SORRY FOR BEEING TOO LATE! BUT YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

Damn shannon i want this!

Yeah, when I get a chance.

(07-08-2016, 04:28 PM)bogdy Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 12:59 PM)bogdy Wrote:

(07-06-2016, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?

SORRY FOR BEEING TOO LATE! BUT YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

Damn shannon i want this!

Yeah, when I get a chance.

What do you mean?

(07-08-2016, 03:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: If my theory is correct, then E2/E3 (when it comes out) should be much more effective in helping with depression in the long run than antidepressants.

(07-08-2016, 04:47 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:

(07-08-2016, 03:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: If my theory is correct, then E2/E3 (when it comes out) should be much more effective in helping with depression in the long run than antidepressants.

Two runs of AM6 has all but obliterated my day-to-day lingering depression, that constant sense of sadness that just hovers over you all day.

I suspect that E2's going to rip out the roots of depression.

(07-08-2016, 04:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: I have narrowed down the goal scripting for DMSI 2.2 to five options. Hopefully I can get the winner today and perhaps start building.