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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 01:43 AM)Light Wrote: Shannon, i wanted to ask you if it is resistence that i am having with the new sub AOSI or something else. I used it now for almost a week.
i have almost all the things that others report except attention or attraction from women. I mean i feel hungry after one loop, i am thirsty, i have better concentration when i play the sub, i have morning wood everyday, , and it gets me really tired in the evening and early in the morning. I am listening around 11 or 12 hours.

If it's resistance, why would you be seeing the effects of the sub?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 06:23 AM)Vincent_Vega Wrote: @ Shannon: how difficult is the wording of your new (and old) technologies? I know that the public scripts of your subs are quite simple to understand for non-native guys, but what about the non-public part of the script? Same level of difficulty?

The public scripts are the core of each statement. The metascripting makes them more complex than that, even in 4G.

In 5G the metascripting makes them very complex. In 5.5G, extremely complex. And in 6G, it is so complex that it is impossible for even a native English speaker to consciously follow what is being said of they listen to it consciously.

That said... the subconscious knows and is capable of a lot more than we think. It has no trouble with understanding even 6G scripting, even at high speeds. So I wouldn't worry about the complexity. The only possible issue is that they may not know the language. But it is also entirely possible that at a subconscious level - they do.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 08:24 AM)LeonidasXVI Wrote: (21:47:36) Alpha360: If shannon could produce a sub to learn self hypnosis it would be crazy I think, much more than AOSI because twhen you could almost do anything with your body like having an erection that last for for ever basically until you tell yourself to stop that erection
(21:48:33) LeonidasXVI: But he won't. Smile
(21:49:02) Alpha360: he won't unless a lot of people ask for it
(21:50:21) Alpha360: imagine everybody able to learn hypnosis after a week of usage, the freedom you would have then, gone the fear of pain, gone the fear of lasting not enough time, gone the inability to sleep, ability to orgasm at will, etc
21:52:26) LeonidasXVI: Let's post this in his Journal discussion, and let's see what he says.

What do you think, Shannon?

I think Leonidas is right. Learning self hypnosis is a possible goal for a subliminal, but it's not the magic wand you seem to think it is, Alpha.

Besides, you already know self hypnosis. What do you think you're doing as you fall asleep, or wake up? Or when you watch TV, or play Video games, or watch movies, or read or drive on the highway and lose track of your environment? All of those things lead to, or are from, self hypnosis. It's just putting yourself in an altered state.

You don't need a sub to learn that. You can do that no sweat by reading any of a thousand books or web pages out there and spending some time practicing. And at the end of the day, you would still come back to me because my methods are better and easier.

State shifting FTW!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 08:25 AM)Freud Wrote: Shannon, if I listen to the ultrasonic at -60dB as recommended I hear a high pitched sound really loud, so I usually have it at around -80dB where I can hear the high pitched noise just a bit but comfortably. That's still good, right?

-80 dB is the bare minimum for subliminal detection and comprehension. If that's the case, it is possible to use them at that level of volume, but no lower. I would just use the masked track if that was the case.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 09:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, I've been thinking about another thing AOSI should probably have (not sure if you thought of this or not) but that's a direct link to the user from the person of their desire. What I mean by that is, it's great if we can affect them in person, but if we go away and then the charm wears off, the sub won't be that useful as many women (at least ime) like to put a buffer between you and them. Prolly an ASD response.

Plus, if we get them all hot and bothered but then they go off and bang some other dude and are now satisfied, that won't do us any good either. I imagine there's got to be something to do about this, but you're the expert. Smile

First, Sarge, we have to remember that this is designed for use by men and women. Not just horny guys.

Second, we have to remember that while it is possible for me to make the sub do all sorts of things that might make it more effective, a lot of them fall into the classification of dangerous or bad idea for one reason or another, and I can't include that.

If you get them hot and bothered and they want you but bang someone else, well then you either didn't have a real chance in the first place or you didn't make it obvious enough that you wanted it.

I have learned through many years of experimenting with the subliminal aphrodisiacs with my girlfriends that even when a woman is super hot and ready to the point of desperation, she is unlikely to bang a guy who she is going to be punished socially for having sex with. As in, she has a boyfriend. She gets all hot and wet and starts drooling down her legs for you, and you both know it. But she will 99 times out of 100 go bang her boyfriend instead because it is safe to do that.

There is something I can do about that, and I plan to implement a safe version of that in v2, but I cannot and will not resort to taking someone's free will away, ever. So unless at that point you take the initiative to persuade her to have sex, you're likely to have a woman who is easy to persuade, but who needs you to be a potential scapegoat for her if she gets caught.

And no matter hat I do, that is likely to always be the case because the vast majority of females have a really hard time taking personal responsibility for themselves on things like that. Because they have a high price to pay, socially, and because... well, because they can get away with shit like that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 09:51 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: Shannon do you think DAOSI and WM would compliment each other? Each one's good in what the other lacks.

I think no matter what I say, someone's going to find out the hard way.

I wouldn't do it, personally.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 01:14 PM)bits Wrote: Shannon

I don't know if this is possible but since you brought up external energy sources and it seems DAOSI is already having an affect on the energy of others, would it possible to perhaps transfer some orgasmic energy to women we're having sex with?

I have experience with pheromones, and I think it's the molecule TAC (androtics direct, also in sxd9) and whenever I use it women have more orgasms, at a faster rate, and they are more intense and also have squirting orgasms when they usually aren't the type to have them. The effect seems to be caused by TAC forcing the body to relax, unwind and therefor makes it easier for women to orgasm. Everyone knows that for both men and women having a good orgasm can be difficult if you're stressed out but this is especially true for women.

If you go the route of external energy sources, again I don't know how your scripting works but if it was the typical subliminal/affirmation it may be something like "my aura/personal space/energy/etc allows women to relax and easily allows them to orgasm to their full potential" or something like that. Having a "tac effect" in the aura of making women more relaxed and at ease could also help with them initiating and approaching, the times I do get more women approaching me with pheromones is when TAC is in the mix.

Just a thought.

Interesting, I had the idea a couple days ago to try to make the aura trigger easier, more frequent and more pleasurable orgasms for women, but I'm not sure if it's possible to limit it to women. If not, it would kill the men's ability to last for anything during sex. Can't have that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 07:34 PM)Womanizer Wrote: Shannon I don't know if you plan on updating maximum learning speed. But I just got the idea of a Genius intelligence sub.
I just noticed I was reading a book and had an aversion to it , and maximum reading speed came to mind. But what about a sub combination with maximum reading speed , mega learning , and writing as well something to awaken the genius within.

When I get to the mind enhancing sub...


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-10-2016, 11:11 PM)swisston Wrote: Maybe what we need is a sub that allows the easy and painless end of relationships without any hurt feelings for either side.

I made that one. I used it on myself. It was back in the 2G days. I may just have to revive and revise it. It was really useful.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-11-2016, 08:03 AM)LionKing Wrote: Shannon: is it possible that too much of E2 will prevent stuff from getting processed, maybe because of the state shifting, positive programming, processing instead of executing, or just plain getting tired or bored with the instructions? Would it be better to aim for constant bliss or a bit of contrast between letting stuff come up and then releasing it with the state shifting?

According to the snowflake analogy, more listening would pile up more flakes, which would be good. But if I consider that its the mind, not the program, that's doing the work, and that the mind already remembers the program after months on it (right?), then it'd make sense that it only needs to be reminded of the goal daily - not too much - and leave it to it and get out of its way. Especially with people who really don't like being told what to do, like myself. Will the mind just manufacture and pile up the new flakes on its own in this way?

I don't think you can have "too much E2". It's best to just let the sub do it's job and get on with your life.

Once the script is in place it does not need to be reminded of the goal. What it needs is renewed focus and motivation to act. Which is why you don't stop using it.

If you don't like being told what to do, then consider how stupid it is to resist an instruction set that is very obviously only doing things for you to improve your state of health, happiness and success. Makes no sense to resist.

But when you stop, after a long time using it, it will have the pile of snowflakes to consider, but it will not be constantly reintegrating them, so focus and motivation will fade.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-11-2016, 09:21 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: The new AOSI V2 should be without the gender neutral thing. It should be like '' I am irresistibly sexy.'' ( period ). Rather than '' I am irresistibly sexy to the gender I find most attractive. '' Or '' I project an intense aura of sexual irresistibility '' Rather than '' I project an intense aura of sexual irresistibility to the gender I find most attractive. ''

Well, Ray, you're a little late to that party. We had that discussion a while ago and I chose the best way forward. Which works really well, by the way.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Jake2015 - 06-11-2016

Shannon, if you ever get the chance, do have a read of my E2 journals in the mens area. Im trying to share all i can and either you can give your insight to it or use it to benefit us all in future subs, or ideally both Smile


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-11-2016

(06-11-2016, 12:31 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: Shannon, if you ever get the chance, do have a read of my E2 journals in the mens area. Im trying to share all i can and either you can give your insight to it or use it to benefit us all in future subs, or ideally both Smile

Generally I have a hard time keeping up with journals other than my own journal response thread and those of the program I last released. But I will see what I can do.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - dissonance - 06-11-2016

(06-11-2016, 12:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(06-10-2016, 09:51 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: Shannon do you think DAOSI and WM would compliment each other? Each one's good in what the other lacks.

I think no matter what I say, someone's going to find out the hard way.

I wouldn't do it, personally.

Do you mean doing the option B of AOSI while on a WM run? Or do you mean doing them separately at different times in a persons life too?