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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - JackOfHearts - 06-09-2016

(06-09-2016, 08:42 PM)dissonance Wrote: "Those dominant in emotional focus and have the corresponding physiology will be most receptive and responsive; those people who are most dominant in the physical/sensual focus and have the corresponding physiology will be second most receptive and responsive; those who focus through their passions and energy will be third most responsive, and those who will be the most difficult to affect will be those who focus mostly through their minds."

What are some examples or further explanations for each of these? I'm not quite sure which one I am from reading that.

Water, earth, fire, air. Water people tend to be round and more fat, a bit like a baby face. Earth Im not sure, fire dominant is redhead, air is thin people who talk all day.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-09-2016

(06-09-2016, 08:42 PM)dissonance Wrote: "Those dominant in emotional focus and have the corresponding physiology will be most receptive and responsive; those people who are most dominant in the physical/sensual focus and have the corresponding physiology will be second most receptive and responsive; those who focus through their passions and energy will be third most responsive, and those who will be the most difficult to affect will be those who focus mostly through their minds."

What are some examples or further explanations for each of these? I'm not quite sure which one I am from reading that.

Most people are a mix of these, and sometimes so much so that it is impossible to tell without using some esoteric system to figure it out.

Generally these personality/physiology types will correspond to the archetypal elements used by the ancients, as Alpha360 pointed out.

The two personality/physiology types most receptive tend on average to have stockier frames and more of a tendency to increased body fat. The two less receptive tend to be more active and of less body fat on average and taller and thinner.

When you mix them, you can end up with some body types that are very hard to classify. I happen to be a mix of three of them, and you'd never guess two of them. Only the passionate type makes itself outwardly known in my body type.

It is, however, too simplistic by far to say that, for example, passionate types have red hair - although it is frequently true that when this element/personality/physiology is dominant, red hair is a likelihood. It is more common for the presence of the redhead gene to be associated, with brown hair instead.

It's not just four types of people. There are many combinations possible, but it is too complex to say that in a quick note.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 06-09-2016

(06-09-2016, 08:46 PM)dissonance Wrote: Also, is the version of OGSF in AOSI scripted with 5.5G methods? or is it just OGSF 5G with a bit of it taken out?

All 5.5G scripts and parts thereof are 5.5G scripting methods when they are ready to be built.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - JackOfHearts - 06-09-2016

(06-09-2016, 10:30 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(06-09-2016, 08:42 PM)dissonance Wrote: "Those dominant in emotional focus and have the corresponding physiology will be most receptive and responsive; those people who are most dominant in the physical/sensual focus and have the corresponding physiology will be second most receptive and responsive; those who focus through their passions and energy will be third most responsive, and those who will be the most difficult to affect will be those who focus mostly through their minds."

What are some examples or further explanations for each of these? I'm not quite sure which one I am from reading that.

Most people are a mix of these, and sometimes so much so that it is impossible to tell without using some esoteric system to figure it out.

Generally these personality/physiology types will correspond to the archetypal elements used by the ancients, as Alpha360 pointed out.

The two personality/physiology types most receptive tend on average to have stockier frames and more of a tendency to increased body fat. The two less receptive tend to be more active and of less body fat on average and taller and thinner.

When you mix them, you can end up with some body types that are very hard to classify. I happen to be a mix of three of them, and you'd never guess two of them. Only the passionate type makes itself outwardly known in my body type.

It is, however, too simplistic by far to say that, for example, passionate types have red hair - although it is frequently true that when this element/personality/physiology is dominant, red hair is a likelihood. It is more common for the presence of the redhead gene to be associated, with brown hair instead.

It's not just four types of people. There are many combinations possible, but it is too complex to say that in a quick note.
yeah indeed it was too simplistic, I was wondering how a black guy would appear with the redhead gene Big Grin


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Light - 06-10-2016

Shannon, i wanted to ask you if it is resistence that i am having with the new sub AOSI or something else. I used it now for almost a week.
i have almost all the things that others report except attention or attraction from women. I mean i feel hungry after one loop, i am thirsty, i have better concentration when i play the sub, i have morning wood everyday, , and it gets me really tired in the evening and early in the morning. I am listening around 11 or 12 hours.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Vincent_Vega - 06-10-2016

@ Shannon: how difficult is the wording of your new (and old) technologies? I know that the public scripts of your subs are quite simple to understand for non-native guys, but what about the non-public part of the script? Same level of difficulty?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Breeze - 06-10-2016

(21:47:36) Alpha360: If shannon could produce a sub to learn self hypnosis it would be crazy I think, much more than AOSI because twhen you could almost do anything with your body like having an erection that last for for ever basically until you tell yourself to stop that erection
(21:48:33) LeonidasXVI: But he won't. Smile
(21:49:02) Alpha360: he won't unless a lot of people ask for it
(21:50:21) Alpha360: imagine everybody able to learn hypnosis after a week of usage, the freedom you would have then, gone the fear of pain, gone the fear of lasting not enough time, gone the inability to sleep, ability to orgasm at will, etc
21:52:26) LeonidasXVI: Let's post this in his Journal discussion, and let's see what he says.

What do you think, Shannon?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Freud - 06-10-2016

Shannon, if I listen to the ultrasonic at -60dB as recommended I hear a high pitched sound really loud, so I usually have it at around -80dB where I can hear the high pitched noise just a bit but comfortably. That's still good, right?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Lowe - 06-10-2016

That is too low I think. Shannon recommends ultrasonic volume at -30db to -40db.

Also some people (not many) can hear at that range and you seem to be one of them. I would suggest using the masked tracks instead if that high pitched sound from the ultrasonic track is too irritating.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - chaosvrgn - 06-10-2016

(06-10-2016, 01:43 AM)Light Wrote: Shannon, i wanted to ask you if it is resistence that i am having with the new sub AOSI or something else. I used it now for almost a week.
i have almost all the things that others report except attention or attraction from women. I mean i feel hungry after one loop, i am thirsty, i have better concentration when i play the sub, i have morning wood everyday, , and it gets me really tired in the evening and early in the morning. I am listening around 11 or 12 hours.

It's much more likely that you're getting the interest, you just don't know what to look for.

Women are conditioned not to show overt sexual interest, lest they run the risk of being called some pretty nasty names, so they tend to control it. They aren't going to see you, then strip naked and ask you to take them. PUBLICLY. I have a theory that AOSI will work wonders in the bedroom (see Kenpachi's experiences).

Learn women's body language. Look for flushed faces. Intense eye contact. Increased showing of skin, for example, pushing their hair to one side to reveal their neck. Or, lifting their arms up high (revealing the arm pit) to put her hair in a ponytail. Or, puckering out her lips and putting on lip gloss. Touching your arm when they talk. Getting giddy when you come around.

If you were resisting it, you'd know it, lol. Resistance feels TERRIBLE.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - SargeMaximus - 06-10-2016

Shannon, I've been thinking about another thing AOSI should probably have (not sure if you thought of this or not) but that's a direct link to the user from the person of their desire. What I mean by that is, it's great if we can affect them in person, but if we go away and then the charm wears off, the sub won't be that useful as many women (at least ime) like to put a buffer between you and them. Prolly an ASD response.

Plus, if we get them all hot and bothered but then they go off and bang some other dude and are now satisfied, that won't do us any good either. I imagine there's got to be something to do about this, but you're the expert. Smile


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - maxx55 - 06-10-2016

(06-10-2016, 09:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, I've been thinking about another thing AOSI should probably have (not sure if you thought of this or not) but that's a direct link to the user from the person of their desire. What I mean by that is, it's great if we can affect them in person, but if we go away and then the charm wears off, the sub won't be that useful as many women (at least ime) like to put a buffer between you and them. Prolly an ASD response.

Plus, if we get them all hot and bothered but then they go off and bang some other dude and are now satisfied, that won't do us any good either. I imagine there's got to be something to do about this, but you're the expert. Smile

I agree. Some kind of "imprinting" effect added to AOSI would be great! Regardless if she has a partner or not, it'd be great if the user was still on her mind.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - chaosvrgn - 06-10-2016

(06-10-2016, 10:03 AM)maxx55 Wrote:
(06-10-2016, 09:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, I've been thinking about another thing AOSI should probably have (not sure if you thought of this or not) but that's a direct link to the user from the person of their desire. What I mean by that is, it's great if we can affect them in person, but if we go away and then the charm wears off, the sub won't be that useful as many women (at least ime) like to put a buffer between you and them. Prolly an ASD response.

Plus, if we get them all hot and bothered but then they go off and bang some other dude and are now satisfied, that won't do us any good either. I imagine there's got to be something to do about this, but you're the expert. Smile

I agree. Some kind of "imprinting" effect added to AOSI would be great! Regardless if she has a partner or not, it'd be great if the user was still on her mind.

While I love this idea, you really gotta watch out when dealing with imprinting and fallout. Back in my pheromone days, I experimented with fallout extensively (using commercial phero blends too, nothing fancy). I was able to succeed, but man -- if you're not ready to commit to that chick, you're asking for trouble. I just lost a really good friend because of this. I induced fallout using pheros over the course of a month or so, we hooked up a lot and then I never committed because she had a boyfriend. When they broke up, she naturally thought I was going to get with her. When I didn't, she got nastier and nastier until I finally had to break things off.

If ANYTHING, instead of inducing fallout in her, you should ask for some kind of implementation for Natural Seduction for Men so that you'll just go for it regardless of any fears.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - SargeMaximus - 06-10-2016

(06-10-2016, 10:17 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:
(06-10-2016, 10:03 AM)maxx55 Wrote:
(06-10-2016, 09:32 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Shannon, I've been thinking about another thing AOSI should probably have (not sure if you thought of this or not) but that's a direct link to the user from the person of their desire. What I mean by that is, it's great if we can affect them in person, but if we go away and then the charm wears off, the sub won't be that useful as many women (at least ime) like to put a buffer between you and them. Prolly an ASD response.

Plus, if we get them all hot and bothered but then they go off and bang some other dude and are now satisfied, that won't do us any good either. I imagine there's got to be something to do about this, but you're the expert. Smile

I agree. Some kind of "imprinting" effect added to AOSI would be great! Regardless if she has a partner or not, it'd be great if the user was still on her mind.

While I love this idea, you really gotta watch out when dealing with imprinting and fallout. Back in my pheromone days, I experimented with fallout extensively (using commercial phero blends too, nothing fancy). I was able to succeed, but man -- if you're not ready to commit to that chick, you're asking for trouble. I just lost a really good friend because of this. I induced fallout using pheros over the course of a month or so, we hooked up a lot and then I never committed because she had a boyfriend. When they broke up, she naturally thought I was going to get with her. When I didn't, she got nastier and nastier until I finally had to break things off.

Well maybe some imprint that you're not the bf type, or maybe an imprint that adapts to how you see her. If we can change a woman's arousal levels like we're doing, we should be able to get her on the same page as us somehow.


(06-10-2016, 10:17 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: If ANYTHING, instead of inducing fallout in her, you should ask for some kind of implementation for Natural Seduction for Men so that you'll just go for it regardless of any fears.

This would be good, but again, ime (maybe it's cause I'm a newb) girls want to put you at arms length more often than not. It's like they are aware of how they can be emotionally unstable so give themselves that space to think it through logically.

Then again, maybe the problem is I'm not overwhelming their emotions enough.