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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 06:59 AM)terry44 Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 06:42 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: freak out defintion from various source:
Slang.
-a person who has withdrawn from normal, rational behavior and activities to pursue one interest or obsession:
freak out, Slang.
-to enter into or cause a period of irrational behavior or emotional instability, as under the influence of a drug:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freak--out

1. to shock or disorient someone
2. to panic, to lose control

Freak Out
To achieve a state in which emotions like stress and worry are amplified. Commonly associated with OCD, deadlines, and middle aged women. Sometimes 'Freak'.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=freak%20out

freak out
vb (adverb)
informal to be or cause to be in a heightened emotional state, such as that of fear, anger, or excitement
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/freak+out

Terry44, if you think fear is useful for human then don't use
every sub that contain ogsf. This was already discussed a lot of time before and well explain by Shannon.
here :
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-89452.html#pid89452

I said there was appropriate and inappropriate fear. If you destroyed ALL fear, you would live a dangerous life. And as those definitions show, being freaked out can be feeling uncomfortable and disorientated without necessarily being scared.

If you destroy all fear, you would live the life of someone who was free from fear. And it would hardly be dangerous, unless you had an IQ that was pretty damned low.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 07:31 AM)terry44 Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 07:03 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-89452.html#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

Fear doesn't stop me from walking off a cliff. Knowing that I have better things to do than die, that's what stops me. Same with stepping into traffic. And putting my hand in a fire produces pain, and I don't enjoy pain, so rationally, I don't do that. No fear necessary.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 07:57 AM)terry44 Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 07:43 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 07:31 AM)terry44 Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 07:03 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-89452.html#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.
It may take 1000 years before the general population realize what Shannon just explained in this post. Fear is not useful anymore if you are able to think for yourself and avoid danger by being smart. Fear is useful for animals because they can't think for themselves.

That would be true if you could avoid all danger with rational thought, but you can't. If a mad dog or crazy human attacked you in a completely unpredictable way, for example, the fear would produce hormones that could save your life. They would give you much greater strength and energy to fight or run away. Without fear you would be at a great disadvantage in that situation.

Hormone production, distribution and chemical uptake/response would likely be happening while you were dead if a dog attacked you. They're not instantaneous, as is the rational awareness that "Hey, this hurts, and I don't want it to happen" or "Hey, that dog might kill me, better do something about it."

Without fear, you would be in the same situation, and likely able to function better because you would be rational and not be shaming like a leaf.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 09:47 AM)mat422 Wrote: Hey Shannon I know you're busy with a ton of other stuff, but I'm wondering if you have any plans for creating subliminals that have to do with becoming a better artist or musician, stuff of that nature. I know the sex stuff is in high demand and it's great for guys that want it, but I'd be really interested to see how subliminals can be applied to other stuff with this new technology.

That stuff is in queue for the future when things settle down a bit. But it's in there.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 11:43 AM)Frenchmagnet Wrote: I didn't read all the suggestion but If Shannon you can add Aura of dominance in AOSI it would be great.

Does everyone want to be dominant? Is everyone dominant? Does that directly improve the subliminal for everyone?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 01:29 PM)CatMan Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 02:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: So what you're saying is, turn it into AM and SM? That's what this list reads like. Makes me think you should do E2, then an AM refresher and then SM again.

This is designed to generate an aura of sexual irresistibility for those you are sexually attracted to. There are some things in here that I can use, but most of this sounds like you'd be happier doing what I suggested above. At the risk of losing a sale here, I think you're getting excited at the prospect of a magic bullet. That's why you got so disappointed with your response to SM. There is no magic bullet, my friend, it will still require that you have the foundation. AOSI is going to make you as sexy as possible within your current framework, but it's not designed to really grow you into anything.

Are you sure you wouldn't do better with E2, AM refresher and then SM?

Hi Shannon!

I just wanted to mention things women seem to find sexy is all. Some were direct and could be of use, others did that in an indirect way, that I thought would shore up the more direct parts so it worked as intended. Like I said, I wasn't even sure how some of that would be possible, just a "perfect world" scenario. I saw you were adding GSF elements to make sure the program works as intended it seemed, and thought you wanted more direct AND indirect ways to be sexy for the script.

I appreciate the honesty about running E2 then AM6 refresher and a full redo of SM3, that would be amazing and would save me money. I just have very little faith in SM3 now, after how awful and disappointing that first run was. It shook my belief in subs so harshly, that...well...I won't talk about it publicly, but I'm sure you know what I'm referring to. Not having a single redeeming moment with a single girl to be optimistic about, I'm not convinced a second run would be any better for me. Even ONE lone incident, would let me know it was actually working and would be enough to keep me going with it and positive about it, but it didn't happen. After every night out, and nothing being different, I always felt like a failure for not making such a powerful program work, it made me feel apprehensive about going out at times as I'd be worried I'd again feel like a failure afterwards. It's too much time investment, in a program that I'm now very skeptical will work for me. I'm concerned about wasting all that time again. I'm hoping this program will do something for me, so I can move on from thinking about SM3. I'm very happy to go in another direction with something vastly more powerful. Nobody was more excited for SM3 than I when I got to finally run it, that was the program goals I've wanted my whole life, but the results were shockingly bad for me. So bad that I don't think it's able to work on me, maybe. I guess no program can work for everyone.

And yet you're still not running the one sub that I have made, which can solve your problem. Hmmm.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 06:41 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 01:29 PM)CatMan Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 02:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: So what you're saying is, turn it into AM and SM? That's what this list reads like. Makes me think you should do E2, then an AM refresher and then SM again.

This is designed to generate an aura of sexual irresistibility for those you are sexually attracted to. There are some things in here that I can use, but most of this sounds like you'd be happier doing what I suggested above. At the risk of losing a sale here, I think you're getting excited at the prospect of a magic bullet. That's why you got so disappointed with your response to SM. There is no magic bullet, my friend, it will still require that you have the foundation. AOSI is going to make you as sexy as possible within your current framework, but it's not designed to really grow you into anything.

Are you sure you wouldn't do better with E2, AM refresher and then SM?

Hi Shannon!

I just wanted to mention things women seem to find sexy is all. Some were direct and could be of use, others did that in an indirect way, that I thought would shore up the more direct parts so it worked as intended. Like I said, I wasn't even sure how some of that would be possible, just a "perfect world" scenario. I saw you were adding GSF elements to make sure the program works as intended it seemed, and thought you wanted more direct AND indirect ways to be sexy for the script.

I appreciate the honesty about running E2 then AM6 refresher and a full redo of SM3, that would be amazing and would save me money. I just have very little faith in SM3 now, after how awful and disappointing that first run was. It shook my belief in subs so harshly, that...well...I won't talk about it publicly, but I'm sure you know what I'm referring to. Not having a single redeeming moment with a single girl to be optimistic about, I'm not convinced a second run would be any better for me. Even ONE lone incident, would let me know it was actually working and would be enough to keep me going with it and positive about it, but it didn't happen. After every night out, and nothing being different, I always felt like a failure for not making such a powerful program work, it made me feel apprehensive about going out at times as I'd be worried I'd again feel like a failure afterwards. It's too much time investment, in a program that I'm now very skeptical will work for me. I'm concerned about wasting all that time again. I'm hoping this program will do something for me, so I can move on from thinking about SM3. I'm very happy to go in another direction with something vastly more powerful. Nobody was more excited for SM3 than I when I got to finally run it, that was the program goals I've wanted my whole life, but the results were shockingly bad for me. So bad that I don't think it's able to work on me, maybe. I guess no program can work for everyone.

And yet you're still not running the one sub that I have made, which can solve your problem. Hmmm.

Actually I am.

Started recently, as per my current updated description thing below my avatar Wink.

Looking forward to the new program, Shannon. Thank you for building it! This thing having even more tech than EHPRA 2.0 is impressive. A sign of great things to come.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 06:45 PM)CatMan Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 06:41 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 01:29 PM)CatMan Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 02:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: So what you're saying is, turn it into AM and SM? That's what this list reads like. Makes me think you should do E2, then an AM refresher and then SM again.

This is designed to generate an aura of sexual irresistibility for those you are sexually attracted to. There are some things in here that I can use, but most of this sounds like you'd be happier doing what I suggested above. At the risk of losing a sale here, I think you're getting excited at the prospect of a magic bullet. That's why you got so disappointed with your response to SM. There is no magic bullet, my friend, it will still require that you have the foundation. AOSI is going to make you as sexy as possible within your current framework, but it's not designed to really grow you into anything.

Are you sure you wouldn't do better with E2, AM refresher and then SM?

Hi Shannon!

I just wanted to mention things women seem to find sexy is all. Some were direct and could be of use, others did that in an indirect way, that I thought would shore up the more direct parts so it worked as intended. Like I said, I wasn't even sure how some of that would be possible, just a "perfect world" scenario. I saw you were adding GSF elements to make sure the program works as intended it seemed, and thought you wanted more direct AND indirect ways to be sexy for the script.

I appreciate the honesty about running E2 then AM6 refresher and a full redo of SM3, that would be amazing and would save me money. I just have very little faith in SM3 now, after how awful and disappointing that first run was. It shook my belief in subs so harshly, that...well...I won't talk about it publicly, but I'm sure you know what I'm referring to. Not having a single redeeming moment with a single girl to be optimistic about, I'm not convinced a second run would be any better for me. Even ONE lone incident, would let me know it was actually working and would be enough to keep me going with it and positive about it, but it didn't happen. After every night out, and nothing being different, I always felt like a failure for not making such a powerful program work, it made me feel apprehensive about going out at times as I'd be worried I'd again feel like a failure afterwards. It's too much time investment, in a program that I'm now very skeptical will work for me. I'm concerned about wasting all that time again. I'm hoping this program will do something for me, so I can move on from thinking about SM3. I'm very happy to go in another direction with something vastly more powerful. Nobody was more excited for SM3 than I when I got to finally run it, that was the program goals I've wanted my whole life, but the results were shockingly bad for me. So bad that I don't think it's able to work on me, maybe. I guess no program can work for everyone.

And yet you're still not running the one sub that I have made, which can solve your problem. Hmmm.

Actually I am.

Started recently, as per my current updated description thing below my avatar Wink.

Oh good. I think that's the best thing you can do to achieve your goals right now.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

Alright, so I just did a short run of the predictive models and the answer I get is interesting. The statements in the script of AOSI to prevent and repel undesired attention seem to affect both those who you want to be attracted, and those you don't. Basically, it reduces to a significant degree, the effects of the whole program.

Based on this, I think I am probably going to build it without those limiters. They do what they are intended to do, but the cost for achieving the program's goals is potentially too high. I'll do longer and more detailed runs, but unless they significantly disagree with this run and for good reasons, that's what's most likely.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Breeze - 05-26-2016

No limiters. Nice!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Nox - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 06:53 PM)Shannon Wrote: Alright, so I just did a short run of the predictive models and the answer I get is interesting. The statements in the script of AOSI to prevent and repel undesired attention seem to affect both those who you want to be attracted, and those you don't. Basically, it reduces to a significant degree, the effects of the whole program.

Based on this, I think I am probably going to build it without those limiters. They do what they are intended to do, but the cost for achieving the program's goals is potentially too high. I'll do longer and more detailed runs, but unless they significantly disagree with this run and for good reasons, that's what's most likely.

Pro-social behavior is attractive, so it makes sense that the opposite could do the opposite.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

Just remember, ladies and gents: the greater the power and freedom you have, the more responsibility you bear as a result. Don't get mad at me if you end up with some 12 year old or someone of the wrong gender humping your leg. This is all on you. You asked for it. You chose to run it. You are responsible for the consequences of being irresistibly sexually attractive.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 07:02 PM)Nox Wrote:
(05-26-2016, 06:53 PM)Shannon Wrote: Alright, so I just did a short run of the predictive models and the answer I get is interesting. The statements in the script of AOSI to prevent and repel undesired attention seem to affect both those who you want to be attracted, and those you don't. Basically, it reduces to a significant degree, the effects of the whole program.

Based on this, I think I am probably going to build it without those limiters. They do what they are intended to do, but the cost for achieving the program's goals is potentially too high. I'll do longer and more detailed runs, but unless they significantly disagree with this run and for good reasons, that's what's most likely.

Pro-social behavior is attractive, so it makes sense that the opposite could do the opposite.

Based on what I see here in the modeling run output, the problem appears to be a self contradictory energy signature causing doubt in the people who are receiving the "communication" from you. Kill the contradiction, maximize the results.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 05-26-2016

(05-26-2016, 07:04 PM)Shannon Wrote: Just remember, ladies and gents: the greater the power and freedom you have, the more responsibility you bear as a result. Don't get mad at me if you end up with some 12 year old or someone of the wrong gender humping your leg. This is all on you. You asked for it. You chose to run it. You are responsible for the consequences of being irresistibly sexually attractive.

LMAO...that's hilarious!

You do a great job of marketing, Shannon.

Either by design or accident, lol.

Reminds me of Spiderman's Uncle: "With great power, comes great responsibility." haha!