(05-26-2016, 08:34 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 08:15 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:52 AM)SouthPaw Wrote: It won't be something like "I now make myself not sexy for men" but rather something similar to what's already in the BIA...subs. And yes there is still a lot of attention from men, gay and not gay. Now, just imagine that wasn't there...

I don't know why you guys are turning it into a fear thing. That's irrelevant. We could also turn it into a shame thing or any other emotion.

It's basically annoying and a waste, not to mention many won't like it.

I agree, the fear thing is irrelevant to this topic. However, as was already pointed out: you can't stop gay guys being attracted to you. Being more attractive to women will make you more attractive to gays simple as that.

Where fear cones in is if you actually believe that attraction will end up somehow making you f*ck a guy. That's just irrational and definitely a fear and, IMO, points to a suppressed sexuality.

That would be extremely irrational, but feeling uncomfortable when someone you don't find attractive is attracted to you is quite normal. I've felt something similar with women I find very unattractive. That's why I like the idea of BIATBW: it's nicely targeted.

(05-26-2016, 05:17 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: I was gonna run SM3 next, but I don't know man... if even half these suggestions are implemented it's gonna be a hard decision...

(05-26-2016, 07:31 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:03 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-89452.html#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

(05-26-2016, 08:55 AM)SouthPaw Wrote: Alpha, when I was on AOS I had guys unconsciously staring at my dick and unconsciously touching there's. And as far as I knew they were full hetero. WTF is that? Lol. Don't give me the fear thing again. A day doesn't just consist of going to the club. And like I said it's 5.5G, meaning it's much much more powerful. So yeah safeties please.

Sarge, definitely there will always be attention from men but with a "limiter" it won't be completely loose.

(05-26-2016, 07:57 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:43 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:31 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:03 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-89452.html#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

It may take 1000 years before the general population realize what Shannon just explained in this post. Fear is not useful anymore if you are able to think for yourself and avoid danger by being smart. Fear is useful for animals because they can't think for themselves.

That would be true if you could avoid all danger with rational thought, but you can't. If a mad dog or crazy human attacked you in a completely unpredictable way, for example, the fear would produce hormones that could save your life. They would give you much greater strength and energy to fight or run away. Without fear you would be at a great disadvantage in that situation.

(05-26-2016, 08:55 AM)SouthPaw Wrote: Alpha, when I was on AOS I had guys unconsciously staring at my dick and unconsciously touching there's. And as far as I knew they were full hetero. WTF is that? Lol. Don't give me the fear thing again. A day doesn't just consist of going to the club. And like I said it's 5.5G, meaning it's much much more powerful. So yeah safeties please.

Sarge, definitely there will always be attention from men but with a "limiter" it won't be completely loose.

(05-26-2016, 09:41 AM)SouthPaw Wrote: Nox that's a different kind of dick checking that I am talking about. Experience it to know it. And that was just one example.

Anyway this is starting to get silly and bordering retardedness. I am out...for now, lol

(05-26-2016, 09:12 AM)dissonance Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:57 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:43 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:31 AM)terry44 Wrote:

(05-26-2016, 07:03 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Just read the post I linked wrote by shannon, it begins with "All fears are unhealthy and unnecessary."
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-89452.html#pid89452

With respect I disagree with him then. The fear that stops you walking off the edge of a cliff, or stepping into traffic or putting your hand in a fire are very healthy. Millions of years of evolution created fear to avoid danger, it stopped you fighting a sabre-toothed tiger or a much bigger human adversary. Or, if you had to fight, fear made you produce the adrenaline and other hormones to be able to fight effectively. Trouble is, it can feed on itself and become irrational, inappropriate, or excessive, and inappropriate fear can even be transmitted to you when very young by those around you.

It may take 1000 years before the general population realize what Shannon just explained in this post. Fear is not useful anymore if you are able to think for yourself and avoid danger by being smart. Fear is useful for animals because they can't think for themselves.

That would be true if you could avoid all danger with rational thought, but you can't. If a mad dog or crazy human attacked you in a completely unpredictable way, for example, the fear would produce hormones that could save your life. They would give you much greater strength and energy to fight or run away. Without fear you would be at a great disadvantage in that situation.

that's not fear though, that's adrenaline, not fear.