(10-07-2014, 04:35 AM)adam225 Wrote: My ear ringing has almost gone now, it's hard to notice it unless it's really quite. It is annoying though. I think it's the constant repetition of the same sound with the trickling stream track. Shame you're not a fan of the Ocean surf track or ultrasonic.

By the way, when listening at night how loud do you have it ? 25% ??

(10-11-2014, 09:57 AM)adam225 Wrote: ^^ I'm getting like that also, I feel like I'm being pushed to get my life on track.

Update, I feel good, really good. I keep having dreams that have fun enjoyable songs in the background and waking up with them going through my mind (no singing, just a nice tune - anyone else ever experienced this ?? ) I also keep having the James bond tune go through my mind every now and then (I don't know if this has anything to do with me reading it in the FAQs). I've also become EXTREMELY sociable all of a sudden (I felt a hard shift in perception a couple of hours after listening on Thursday). A lot more people have started speaking to me and the conversations seem to flow with so much ease. The only downside is I feel quite lethargic at times (like now), I need to get on with my studies but I feel like sleeping instead lol. So far, so goooood !!!

(10-12-2014, 01:35 AM)Raz Wrote:

Maniac Wrote:I have done a test: I listen to some music around the same volume of the subliminal , even a bit more loud. Then I switch to the subliminal. I have notice that when I play the subliminal my tinnitus get more noticeable and irritating. And when I stop the subliminal it get better right away. Whereas when I play a song I don't get that strong reaction. Either it's the sub or the trickling or I didn't do the right test. I'll test with the ocean, I don't listen to the ultrasonic at all, I don't feel at ease when listening to it.

My other theory is that the tinnitus is the result of my strong resistance. According to various source the tinnitus is the result of stress, anxiety, fear, stress, lack of sleep, wrong diet, etc. In my case it might be some strong fear I hold back for myself.

I noticed this high frequency in the trickling stream as well. First in LTU, but I stopped worrying about it and got used to it. Yesterday when I gave BASE the first run-through with headphones and the trickling stream I concentrated fully on the sound to see what kind of associations/visualizations I would get to figure the sub out, there was this high-pitched sound again. I'd say this is definitely not tinnitus, more the sub itself, as I only experience it with this subliminally-loaded tracks. Temporary tinnitus I experience after playing with my band or participating in overly loud concerts has definitely another pitch, it is not as high as the one in the trickling stream and will definitely not vanish by switching tracks or turning them off. Listen to the high frequency intently and without fear and you'll notice that it is irregular and not steady. It's splashing and pulsing. It is exactly like the ultrasonic track (yes, I hear it).

So relax, nothing is wrong with your hearing. This is fear mixed with an audio-sensation you haven't consciously experienced and filed as save yet.


Raz

(10-11-2014, 10:49 PM)maniac360 Wrote:

(10-07-2014, 04:35 AM)adam225 Wrote: My ear ringing has almost gone now, it's hard to notice it unless it's really quite. It is annoying though. I think it's the constant repetition of the same sound with the trickling stream track. Shame you're not a fan of the Ocean surf track or ultrasonic.

By the way, when listening at night how loud do you have it ? 25% ??

Hard to tell, I try to use the minimum possible. Around 15% I would say. I noticed that it's really the subliminal who is triggering this tinnitus (or the trickling stream).

I have done a test: I listen to some music around the same volume of the subliminal , even a bit more loud. Then I switch to the subliminal. I have notice that when I play the subliminal my tinnitus get more noticeable and irritating. And when I stop the subliminal it get better right away. Whereas when I play a song I don't get that strong reaction. Either it's the sub or the trickling or I didn't do the right test. I'll test with the ocean, I don't listen to the ultrasonic at all, I don't feel at ease when listening to it.

My other theory is that the tinnitus is the result of my strong resistance. According to various source the tinnitus is the result of stress, anxiety, fear, stress, lack of sleep, wrong diet, etc. In my case it might be some strong fear I hold back for myself.
Recently I have notice I have some deep resistance linked to the subliminal. I wake up with some kind of nightmare where the nightmare is related to my speaker playing the subliminal.
it's not the first time I got this kind of dream.

(10-13-2014, 01:28 AM)adam225 Wrote:

(10-11-2014, 10:49 PM)maniac360 Wrote:

(10-07-2014, 04:35 AM)adam225 Wrote: My ear ringing has almost gone now, it's hard to notice it unless it's really quite. It is annoying though. I think it's the constant repetition of the same sound with the trickling stream track. Shame you're not a fan of the Ocean surf track or ultrasonic.

By the way, when listening at night how loud do you have it ? 25% ??

Hard to tell, I try to use the minimum possible. Around 15% I would say. I noticed that it's really the subliminal who is triggering this tinnitus (or the trickling stream).

I have done a test: I listen to some music around the same volume of the subliminal , even a bit more loud. Then I switch to the subliminal. I have notice that when I play the subliminal my tinnitus get more noticeable and irritating. And when I stop the subliminal it get better right away. Whereas when I play a song I don't get that strong reaction. Either it's the sub or the trickling or I didn't do the right test. I'll test with the ocean, I don't listen to the ultrasonic at all, I don't feel at ease when listening to it.

My other theory is that the tinnitus is the result of my strong resistance. According to various source the tinnitus is the result of stress, anxiety, fear, stress, lack of sleep, wrong diet, etc. In my case it might be some strong fear I hold back for myself.
Recently I have notice I have some deep resistance linked to the subliminal. I wake up with some kind of nightmare where the nightmare is related to my speaker playing the subliminal.
it's not the first time I got this kind of dream.

You could be onto something here Manic. I had a few thoughts once about it being the subliminal messages themselves but totally dismissed it. What's come to mind now is that it isn't actually anything to do with our ears (or auditory system) what so ever - the ringing lies in our brain with interpreting and acting on the subliminal messages. I also doubt it is a form of resistance itself, it's the complete opposite - we're resisting the ringing by giving it attention/worry, this is the resistance we're experiencing and it's totally consciously directed. What to do ? Stop giving it any attention what so ever, and realise that as soon as you finish the program it will go. There's no way on this earth that running these programs on such a low volume could cause damage to the auditory system, it just doesn't make sense.

So it looks like there's going to be a low percentage of people who will suffer from this condition then, me and you being two of them. It's just one of those trade offs I guess...

(10-13-2014, 02:07 AM)maniac360 Wrote:

(10-13-2014, 01:28 AM)adam225 Wrote:

(10-11-2014, 10:49 PM)maniac360 Wrote:

(10-07-2014, 04:35 AM)adam225 Wrote: My ear ringing has almost gone now, it's hard to notice it unless it's really quite. It is annoying though. I think it's the constant repetition of the same sound with the trickling stream track. Shame you're not a fan of the Ocean surf track or ultrasonic.

By the way, when listening at night how loud do you have it ? 25% ??

Hard to tell, I try to use the minimum possible. Around 15% I would say. I noticed that it's really the subliminal who is triggering this tinnitus (or the trickling stream).

I have done a test: I listen to some music around the same volume of the subliminal , even a bit more loud. Then I switch to the subliminal. I have notice that when I play the subliminal my tinnitus get more noticeable and irritating. And when I stop the subliminal it get better right away. Whereas when I play a song I don't get that strong reaction. Either it's the sub or the trickling or I didn't do the right test. I'll test with the ocean, I don't listen to the ultrasonic at all, I don't feel at ease when listening to it.

My other theory is that the tinnitus is the result of my strong resistance. According to various source the tinnitus is the result of stress, anxiety, fear, stress, lack of sleep, wrong diet, etc. In my case it might be some strong fear I hold back for myself.
Recently I have notice I have some deep resistance linked to the subliminal. I wake up with some kind of nightmare where the nightmare is related to my speaker playing the subliminal.
it's not the first time I got this kind of dream.

You could be onto something here Manic. I had a few thoughts once about it being the subliminal messages themselves but totally dismissed it. What's come to mind now is that it isn't actually anything to do with our ears (or auditory system) what so ever - the ringing lies in our brain with interpreting and acting on the subliminal messages. I also doubt it is a form of resistance itself, it's the complete opposite - we're resisting the ringing by giving it attention/worry, this is the resistance we're experiencing and it's totally consciously directed. What to do ? Stop giving it any attention what so ever, and realise that as soon as you finish the program it will go. There's no way on this earth that running these programs on such a low volume could cause damage to the auditory system, it just doesn't make sense.

So it looks like there's going to be a low percentage of people who will suffer from this condition then, me and you being two of them. It's just one of those trade offs I guess...

It's what I thought too. But I read some books about Ayurveda that say something different. I'm not believing what they say like gospel but it makes sense.

They have a way of seeing things a little bit different. They say that the tinnitus is reaction to fear, stress, etc that occur when a person has to much Vata (air). They say that disease appear when there is a dosha (element) in excess in the body(for tinnitus it's Vata/air). They also say that the excess element make the person behave in a way that is obvious. For example I met one of my friend who has an excess of Vata and he got another vata disease (cold hand, Raynaud's disease). He is always talking and he never stop (symptom of vata disorder).

What seems contradictory to hypnosis. Is that they tell you to ignore it, make you ignore the pain/sound. If it is a mental disorder there is no problem to that. But if it relates to a physical problem you are basically ignoring a warning from your body. Another example is that you have a tooth that is hurting you and you have to remove it. But instead you go see a hypnotist and you remove the pain. You didn't resolve the problem, you have only stop the pain.


When I have read a hypnotist program to remove the tinnitus they said they don't know what is the cause. They said it's something that relieve the pain/sound so they don't claim to cure anything.

Another contradictory stuff I have read is that in Ayurveda they say you can try to hear to sound (tinnitus) like in a meditation when you listen to your inner sound.