Subliminal Talk

First of all i want to introduce myself a shortly so you can see my progress in subject to my background because i think that the progress with DMSI is strongly dependend on it.

I am 29 years old and I am from Germany as you can see in the title.
So my language is not the best and i hope that you can understand me nevertheless.

I am a virgin and I have little to no experience with women at all.
In my youth I was a total computer nerd with overweight and with little to no self confidence.
Around six years ago I reduced my weight for around 40 kg (around 88 lbs) and till now raised my overall self confidence but not with women i find attractive.
I have really big struggles to appraoch women, if the situation is naturally and they show interest to me it is much better but this happened to me very rarely my hole Life.
Right now i would say, that I am a pretty average looking guy, 184 cm tall.

I was trying several subs in the past.
The first time around 2 year ago from other sources, but with no results.
Around 1,5 years ago I found Shannons shop and first tried some of the free subs.
It was the first time that I felt something changing with Emotional Pain Relief, but still no big results and also with BIATBW i had no real progress until I startet with DMSI 3.0.1 A...

Before i go into it i have to say, that i first startet with DMSI V 2.5 back in November and run it for around 1,5 month until i discovered on January 3rd that a new version was out...

But with 2.5 i had also little to no resulst.
On new years eve, there was a little incident in a heavy metal club.
In the Line for the Garderobe right before i wanted to leave, there was standing a cute girl in front of me. It took around 25 minutes in total so everybody in the line moved a little bit to the music, but i noticed that she began to play with her hair and at one time she made a step backwards so that her back was directly in touch with my front and i saw over her shoulders that she were playing with her hair even more heavily, so i very gently touched her thighs with my outside hand and gently stroke her and we both hold this postion for 5 to 10 seconds and she didn´t escaped it directly nor slapped me or something like this ^^
Around one Minute later directly at the garderobe I spoke to her and asked her for her number but she denied. It´s very likely that i asked her to carefully or perhaps she only wanted to play a little bit with me i am not that sure.
But around 5 Minutes later after I was on the toilet and went to the exit, she suddenly touched me on my arm because I diddn´t saw, that she was standing next to the exit, smiled at me and said goodbye. I was a bit confused with her behaviour smiled back and also said bye and left the club.

Perhaps i should mention that never in my hole life i had an incident like that...

But all in all i would say, that DMSI 2.5 brought to me no noticable change, but perhaps it was much more subconscious then i thought.

But now i think that it was totally my fault that it couldn´t work rightly because at this time i didn´t follow Shannons directions rightly.

I was hearing the loops on changing daytimes and not always had 24 hours between the sessions and mostly had interruptions while listening to the loops.

But as i started listening to DMSI 3.0.1 A i changed that.
Now i always listen to it in the evening, so i can do it also on workdays and since around 2 weeks i was able to always listen to the whole 3 loops without interupptions and i think it´s totally worth it.

So today I am at Day 19 on DMSI 3.0.1 A and i can clearly say, that it is working.
Not so fast and strong as for others here in the forum but there are many things changing within me.

In the first week I had some issues to sleep, but meanwhile i can sleep again normally. Especially in the first week right after starting the sub i began to have a very optimistic feeling inside myself that this will finally help me but still with no noticeable effects.
In the next week and until now i am experiencing that my self confidence is raising from day to day, especially at work.
Perhaps my low self confidence will be the biggest obstacle to overcome, but I`m seeing such fast progress with that lately.
And this really can´t be a coincidence.

Beside that I notice more and more that women are looking at me mostly with no special look but also that is totally new for me.
I also had on some days more eye contact with beautiful women then in one whole year in my past...
And I notice more and more something i want to call wandering eyes. When a woman in the city is walking past you and even is talking with a friend in this moment but while passing me here eyes are like drawn to my eyes and her concentration for a little moment is drawn to me.

But besides that i still got no clear IOI´s in my opinion, but the progress this time is very obvious to me.
But there is still a long way to go for me and especially for my self confidence i guess

There where also some other incident´s in the meantime but i want to write about them another time cause it´s not easy for me to write in english and now i am a little bit exhausted right now ^^

Ah and i also started to write a diary especially with focus on progress based on DMSI.

And in addition to DMSI I am trying an imagination technique.
For that i remember some situations in which i had contact with an attractive woman and try to feel every feeling i had in this situation and I also try to remember the sounds i heard and the smells and every small detail so that I am totally back in this situation.
Then if I have any bad feelings like that huge feeling to look away when i am looking at an attractive woman i concentrate at this feeling and start to accept it until it fades away...
After this I imagine the same situation but this time i change her behaviour to that i want to see from her and also change the feelings in my self in some positive to euphoric feelings but this is not that easy ^^

I also forgot to mention, that from day to day i have less and less problems to look at attractive girls and too look into her eyes and also the feeling to look away is lowering from day to day.

Just saying: Alles Gute! (english: all the best!)

Vielen Dank (Thank You very much)

I want also mention that i am able to see around 2-3 layers of chakra aura.
I learned it one year ago but i am stagnating at it a long time now and I am not able to see any changes due to DMSI.
I assume that either I am not skilled enough with seeing the Aura or this is another kind of Aura, does anybody know this?

Some days ago i started with an Aura loading exercise where you imagine energy from the earth and from the sky alltogether with your breath.
During the exersice i notice a prickling feeling especially on the hands and arms but not much more atm.

Good luck!!!
Keep posting, really interested in your results and changes with this.

(01-22-2017, 02:01 PM)HorizonPUA Wrote: [ -> ]Good luck!!!
Keep posting, really interested in your results and changes with this.

Thank you. I will but perhaps not very regular and only when there are mentionable incidents or some noticeable progress.


So I mentioned earlier that i want to write about some incidents i had until now.

Day 7:

The first noticeable incident I had on the seventh day on DMSI.
In the evening I went with my former dance partner and some of her fellow students to a cinema show in the university. We where watching Suicide Squad. A quite good movie if you don´t expect too much
With them was a girl which I like but was rejected by her last year because she had a crash for another guy.
We where on our seats around half an hour before the movie started and between that girl and me at the beginning there sat two other students they where very long at the popcorn queue so shortly before the movie started the others told me two to move up so I sat next to her during the whole movie.
During the movie I noticed that she began to go through her hairs repeatedly but more in a nervous way. Also it wasn´t clearly directed to me and sometimes she cramped her hands together and sometimes exhaled very strongly.
So I wasn´t really sure if it was because of me but perhaps it was because she didn´t behave like that until i sat next to her.
It also seemed that the situation was quite uncomfortable for her and she didn´t really know what was going on with her.

Is it possible that my sniper perhaps got her but because of the early stage I was in at that time the sniper wasn´t really sharp and a bit diffused or is it possible that she was uncomfortable in that situation because of our encounter in the past where she rejected me?

That´s it. The other incidents will follow bit by bit in the next days so stay tuned

So, before i talk about some other incidents, today i want to talk about my overall progression and experiences while on DMSI 3.0.1 a so far:

Today I am on day 26.
In the first two weeks I didn´t saw many changes in my surroundings. Not many IOI´s and only slowly increasing of the amount and intensity of eye contacts.
But within the first days i felt something changing within myself.
I felt my selfconfidence rising and changing of my self-perception and had a very optimistic feeling that this will work.
Around 1,5 weeks after starting i had my first very intense eye lock with a pretty girl.

Overall i would say, that every 7 days around there is a jump in my progression and suddenly from one day to another, i get more contacts then before.
Also for me it is much easier to directly look in the eyes of a beautiful woman and hold the look until she looks aways. For me even this was impossible before DMSI.
And today i realised that I am not feeling anything anymore when I am doing this, only still a little bit with very stunning looking girls, but i think it´s only a matter of time to handle this...
So as you see, I am making little but persistent steps and I feel myself very well with it and for me it is totally ok if i progress slowly and perhaps achieve the goal only in some months (or can this thinking be one kind of resistance? ^^).
But I am very happy of the progression so far.

But there is also something that is a little bit weird to me.
I noticed that especially woman which are around with there boyfriends are staring at me. Some as if they had seen a ghost...
Is it possible that my subconcious mind tries to tell them that I might be sexually a better option then their boyfriends? And because of this, the aura is transmitting this information?

The next observation I made - as I had seen in other journals - that my demand to masturbate is getting significantly lower. Also I have no problem to watch a porn without the need to masturbate.
And this is really not normal for me.

In the last week i noticed severly times, that in any conversations I can speak much more fluently and more automatic. Therefore you have to know, that I am a very shy and introverted person and had big problems to speak especially with people who are foreign to me.

The last thing I detected so far is that I am at the moment affecting mostly more average looking girls (like 6-7 out of 10) and have effects on better looking girls verly rarerly at the moment.
I think I am climbing the ladder from th bottom to the top and making a progression. So I am confident, that this will change soon.
And I am still getting mostly only eye contact and more rarely i see a girls playing with their hairs directely to me.
So I guess there is much more room for progression ^^

So this is it for today

What do you mean by seeing auras? Like whats that like? I dont get it

(01-28-2017, 09:03 PM)blackwing Z Wrote: [ -> ]What do you mean by seeing auras? Like whats that like? I dont get it

Seeing auras is a skill that technically everybody can learn.
With the right excercises u will be able to see the subtle energies which surrounds every living thing even plants.

Here is a small instruction video I found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYlb_XtNP7c

It´s very important to be patient, if you really want to learn it but it is really possible for everybody who really wants to learn it.

Only further things like hearing the aura or seeing the higher layers of the aura are really difficult to learn and are strongly dependent on the respective potential of the person.

I am back after a while now ^^

First of all i listened to the first 2 loops of DMSI 3.1 A hybrid Trickling Stream with Earphones on my mobile. Today i was off of Version 3.0.1 for 18 days, so i am a nearly valid tester i think.
I felt nothing so special, perhaps a little energetic feeling but not that strong feelings some others have while listening to the subs.
But this was also on Version 3.0.1 like this and it definetly worked for me.

But my Tai chi, Chi Gong and Meditaion session this evening was pretty intense. A very energetic and intense feeling and i was noticeable easier able to see my aura and it was clearer than usual and the first time with a light blue colour but i even don´t know what that means ^^
Normally i see my aura light yellow and less common red. But as far as i know, the colour and shape of the aura is not static and always dependent on your experiences and subconcious mind. For another aura seeing person my own aura could possibly have a totally different colour and shape i think.

Perhaps it is ok when I won´t mention my previous experiences and incidents in detail but shortly summarized:

- i listened 5 weeks to V 3.0.1 A
- in the last weeks of it, my progressions seems to stagnate or seemed to reach a maximum depending IoI´s (mostly eye contact)
- i had one incident where i definetly and very strongly felt the aura, it felt like hard energy draining, it where while I was waiting in the queue in front of a football stadium and i noticed a woman behind me with her son, but i didn´t saw how old was and how she looked. While waiting in the queue she began to stand diectly behind me and touched me with her body in my back and closed each time i stepped foward the gap between us. Also when i tested it and began to walk only a little step or more steps foward she mostly closed the gap one or two seconds later. Gave me a pretty hard boner, not thad bad ^^
- after the 5 weeks of Version A, i tried Version B for one week. On that i got less IoI´s but some stronger ones, like some few very submissive looks.
- in the blooming phase i wasn´t out much but for me the blooming phase gave me some internal healing sensations and progression i think, but it is very feeling and emotion based, so it´s really hard to describe
- and last but not least i got my first kiss ever last week. Although it wasn´t a good kiss at all because we both where pretty drunken and where interrupted by her surprised friends and it doesn´t felt right somehow. However I am somehow glad that i just did and I had no bad feelings afterwards (it was at the Düsseldorfer Carnival on Weiberfasnacht, there is no english word for this day i think ^^ it is a day in the german carnival where the women get the power for one day and some women use this day as an apologize to have noncommital sex (sorry don´t know a better word for it) and don´t be seen as a bitch, so if you ever planned to go to germany and wanna have sex with german women, the carnival is most likely the best time for it, but i would suggest to go to Cologne, there it is even more blatant)
I am not that sure if this was totally caused by the drunken state or perhaps the autopilot but it somehow felt like i was acting really automatic in this situation and perhaps it showed that i watched too many porns in the past, because the way i did it...xD
Late on the day we went in a crowded bar and we just had bought pizza before and while we where entering the bar she began to feed me with the last slice and began to eat it a little like a wild animal and she seemed to like it xD
When we sat down, seh said that she had really cold hands, so i took her hands to warm them and asked her why her hands are so cold and she said because of low blood pressure and the then i really asked her if i should raise her blood pressure and she answered something like: try it (i don´t remember the exact words) and so i kissed her ^^
But then i realized that i am not the best kisser (was the first time ever) and that the drunken state didn´t helped and she noticed it and her female friend souted my name surprised and reproachful at the same time, so we concluded it and i also dind´t asked her for her mobile number. But all in all I somehow hadn´t a bad feeling at all, i didn´t even care that it went not that good.
The reason perhaps is that my subconcious mind might know that with DMSI there will come plenty more occasions ^^

So i am out for now and please excuse my bad english. I really have to work on it...

Your English is vastly better than my German. You are excused.

(03-03-2017, 04:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Your English is vastly better than my German. You are excused.

Thank you very much Shannon.
Good to hear

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Shannon how long are you learning german already?
I had english 9 years in school so probably it could be better ^^
So i think that will be a good exercise to report here about my progress frequently

(03-04-2017, 02:09 AM)Travis Wrote: [ -> ]I just read all your entries - You've made a lot of progress dude.

Going from introverted virgin to getting make outs is impressive

Yeah but until now it is mostly inner progress.
The drunken incident as i call it is until now an total exception in terms of my own behaviour respective to women.
But i think it shows where we possibly can go with DMSI even not being in a drunken state in terms of bold approaching of women.


And this i have to report just now:
I just did my Tai Chi and Chi Gong excercises. For people who aren´t into it. These techniques there for the increasing and flowing of the universal energy chi or ki or prana. And while i was on DMSI 3.0.1 i made a good progress with that. There are special energy cultivation excercises where you are just breathing in your inner center the Dantien and while on DMSI 3.0.1 i mostly felt a good warmth and also got sometimes a little sweaty.
But now one day after my first loops of 3.1 (the second loops will follow this evening) this was even more stronger. My hands and my Dantien got really hot and i began to sweat like i had an intense workout.
This is really some strong stuff xD

And as i mentioned in another thread. Today i have a nice but gentle energetic feeling of inner peace. It feels so nice

I am really enjoying reading this journal thanks for sharing