Subliminal Talk

It's your birthday today Shannon?? HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Happy Birthday Bloke....Keith.

Happy birthday Shannon!

Whew, finally back. Thanks guys.

I have seen BAMM at work in my life in the last 10 days. Opening new doors and closing doors that lead to failure. Some of those doors that closed were painful for me to close - and costly - but I did it, and I did it quickly. I sacrificed a lot on the 29th for this future I am working towards, and that decision will hurt for a long while I am sure. But I cannot say I regret the choice, regardless, because it was fairly black and white: I had to choose between success and failure. I chose success.

I knew getting there would be painful, but I did not expect some of the sacrifices I have been forced to make for this. Nevertheless, I am moving forward.

Was it a door you could have left open for a little bit while you continued getting back to work or did you have to reject it right then? What new doors are open?

Glad to have you back, people forget that the more conscious effort you put into achieving the goal of the sub the better it is but I'm sure this decision is going to further help the affects of OE to get you to that multimillionaire status.

Thanks

Fonzy

Quote:Was it a door you could have left open for a little bit while you continued getting back to work or did you have to reject it right then?

To give you some idea, within 24 hours of becoming aware of the situation, and within 15 minutes of fully realizing the situation and it's consequences, I closed the door.

Quote:What new doors are open?

There are doorways to massive success possibilities that opened for me while I was in Chicago. Some were there, but I hadn't noticed them fully before. The potentials of the connections I made and developed while I was there, and the opportunities that are coming to fruition, are staggering. So staggering that I can't yet wrap my mind around them fully.

Quote:Glad to have you back, people forget that the more conscious effort you put into achieving the goal of the sub the better it is but I'm sure this decision is going to further help the affects of OE to get you to that multimillionaire status.

OE has a mind of it's own. Going to Chicago was very important.

I am really feeling BAMM in my life again recently, and it's definitely kicking ass. It's like a big brother guiding me safely to my goal and protecting me from distractions and failure, and this makes me feel a lot better and more motivated. Lot more dreams about success and being wealthy already lately, too. The other day I had a dream where I left a $100 tip just to see the look on the waitress's face, and one where I gave a waitress a $5,000 tip because I knew she was a single mother having a hard time of it. I can't wait to be able to do things like that randomly, just because I can.

Lately I have been either being attacked or discovering previous betrayals/attacks by others, and I am very surprised at my responses, which are obviously a direct result of BAMM 2.0. Normally I would be very upset, but now I just consider these people to be unworthy of my time and I cut them out of my life, or ignore them.

I have to say, though, that to a small degree, it still irritates me that people who are not as strong, capable, successful, mature or aware (depending on who we are talking about in particular) seem to have a need to tear down those who are progressing towards success, and making it happen. I'm sure the efforts to paint me in a negative light personally will only get worse as I become more and more successful. But I saw this coming, and I took care of it in BAMM 2.0. It's in there.

Having BAMM playing while I work is a great way to keep me working and focused on work. Lately I have two of my ex's who are very intent on getting me back, in addition to apparently growing interest from others. BAMM helps me stay focused on my goal. While I have been enjoying the company and the interest of these women, my first goal is my success and they all know it. Thank goodness I have BAMM.

On the flip side, it's turning me into a slave driver for myself. I had to take today off to keep from burning out.

Hi Shannon and the guys,

I have been following closely the experience of you guys and read most of the posts because one day I would like to try BAMM too.
But, in all honesty, its been 9 months so far from the time most of you guys started and I dont see any real progress. Most of you guys talk about FEELINGS. I dreamt this and I felt that, my head hurts its so powerful, etc.

But, I dont see anyone saying well I was making $5,000/month and after going through certain stages of BAMM, may be in 4-5 months, Now I make $50,000/month. YAAY! NOW THAT'S Results! Now again, make a note, $50,000/month is like making $600,000/year. Thats NOT even a Million Dollars. So if this subliminal truly has the Power to make some1 attract A MultiMillion Dollar lifestyle, one should ATLEAST attract $50,000/month in 4-5 months of this course. Because by that Rule, you can expect to be a MultiMillionaire (not a millionaire) in may be 5-10 years.

I am sorry to be a skeptic here, but please convince me if i am wrong, but this forum sounds like a bunch of wannabes to me who keeps on trying one sub after the other and keep on talking rather than making it happen. For example, go for Attractive Girls (try 90 days); oh that didnt work may be you dont have confidence, try Absolute Confidence; that didnt work either, cos may be u have deep rooted fear, try Overcoming Fear and stuff; oh that didnt work too, overcome Self Sabotage LOL

I have been doing ASC since last 3 days. In fact, it still playing on PC while I type this. But I am a skeptic who has tried a lot of other bogus things out in the market. And my hopes do down when I see No Concrete Long Lasting/ Life Changing Evidence. This is like saying, tomorrow I will add another Sub - "Sing like Justin Beiber". Within 1-2 years, almost all ppl who purchase that sub will actually sing like Justin Beiber and make Millionsss. Cos if sub can enlarge breast and penis, then can def make us sing like Justin Beiber too, right?

I am sorry, I do not mean to sound threatening. But, I am trying to reason my mind here. May be its a withdrawal effect, who knows. Please dont take any offense. I want to know your response, what will you say to a skeptic like me. Mind you, I have not stopped listening to ASC. I will HANDS DOWN continue this for 90 days. And if I see a change in me (save this thread), I will repost saying this is what I said and oh how wrong I was. I will be more than willing to even Fund the selfless activity that you do for all us.

But until then this is what I honestly think and I am a 4th year medical student. So I am no fool ranting. I wanted your and everyone elses take on it. I Want to be Proven Wrong!
I will post a copy of this on general page too in case if most ppl dont visit this page

Quote:Hi Shannon and the guys,

I have been following closely the experience of you guys and read most of the posts because one day I would like to try BAMM too.
But, in all honesty, its been 9 months so far from the time most of you guys started and I dont see any real progress. Most of you guys talk about FEELINGS. I dreamt this and I felt that, my head hurts its so powerful, etc.

But, I dont see anyone saying well I was making $5,000/month and after going through certain stages of BAMM, may be in 4-5 months, Now I make $50,000/month. YAAY! NOW THAT'S Results! Now again, make a note, $50,000/month is like making $600,000/year. Thats NOT even a Million Dollars. So if this subliminal truly has the Power to make some1 attract A MultiMillion Dollar lifestyle, one should ATLEAST attract $50,000/month in 4-5 months of this course. Because by that Rule, you can expect to be a MultiMillionaire (not a millionaire) in may be 5-10 years.

It is apparent that your expectations are not realistic. The research that went into the program indicates that the majority of self made millionaires require 1 to 4 decades to do it. This program is designed and intended to do it in 1 to 8 years. Not months, not weeks. Your "rule" is neither realistic nor valid.

Achieving millionaire is accomplished differently by every person. It also takes different amounts of time. What may require one man six months to accomplish, may take another man's entire life.

You are assuming that your expectations are the only way to accomplish the goal. That is very limited thinking. All it takes is one decision by the right person or company, and boom, it happens. Technically, I am already a multi-millionaire, because my IP alone is worth more than $10 million. But to have a couple million or more in liquid cash in the bank will probably take me another 1-4 years of R&D.

If your expectation was valid, everyone would get there the same way. That is not how it works.

Quote:I am sorry to be a skeptic here, but please convince me if i am wrong, but this forum sounds like a bunch of wannabes to me who keeps on trying one sub after the other and keep on talking rather than making it happen. For example, go for Attractive Girls (try 90 days); oh that didnt work may be you dont have confidence, try Absolute Confidence; that didnt work either, cos may be u have deep rooted fear, try Overcoming Fear and stuff; oh that didnt work too, overcome Self Sabotage LOL

If you're looking for reasons why not, you'll find them. The same thing is true for the reverse. This is because we tend to create our own reality based on our expectations and beliefs. Skepticism comes in two flavors, and one is healthy skepticism that is balanced by a neutral approach and no expectations in either direction. The other is fear based skepticism, which is recognized by an expectation of negativity and a tendency to antagonosim. It sounds to me like you're the latter, wanting to be convinced. If the programs themselves and your personal experiences don't convince you, then the solution is simple: they're not right for you, and you need to find what is.

Quote:I have been doing ASC since last 3 days. In fact, it still playing on PC while I type this. But I am a skeptic who has tried a lot of other bogus things out in the market. And my hopes do down when I see No Concrete Long Lasting/ Life Changing Evidence. This is like saying, tomorrow I will add another Sub - "Sing like Justin Beiber". Within 1-2 years, almost all ppl who purchase that sub will actually sing like Justin Beiber and make Millionsss. Cos if sub can enlarge breast and penis, then can def make us sing like Justin Beiber too, right?

You tell me you have used it for three days and have decided that it is bogus. That is ridiculous. Your antagonistic skepticism is showing, I'm afraid. That type demands proof, but they only want to see what they choose to see AS proof, and if what is doesn't fit that narrow definition of proof, well it's bogus.

Most people don't have life changing results in 3 days. At least, not from that sub. Assumption that it's bogus because you assumed that if it wasn't, you'd have life changing results in 3 days is actually rather amusing. It's not reasonable, either as an expectation, or as a response to being skeptical.

Quote:I am sorry, I do not mean to sound threatening. But, I am trying to reason my mind here. May be its a withdrawal effect, who knows. Please dont take any offense. I want to know your response, what will you say to a skeptic like me. Mind you, I have not stopped listening to ASC. I will HANDS DOWN continue this for 90 days. And if I see a change in me (save this thread), I will repost saying this is what I said and oh how wrong I was. I will be more than willing to even Fund the selfless activity that you do for all us.

I'm not threatened or upset that you're skeptical, but this may not have been the best place to post this. We have converted a lot of skeptics, and a few have managed to resist the programs and moved on. For anything to work requires an open mind, and if you're afraid of losing control of your mind or person (which is common with skeptics), then you're naturally going to resist cooperating with the program. The question at that point becomes... are you the personality type that can completely stonewall them? That's pretty rare, but we had one such here recently. He got no results.

Ultimately, you are going to see what you want to see, which in your case is only the negatives. There's a lot more positive than negative here to read about. I do appreciate you giving the program a real test, though.

Quote:But until then this is what I honestly think and I am a 4th year medical student. So I am no fool ranting. I wanted your and everyone elses take on it. I Want to be Proven Wrong!
I will post a copy of this on general page too in case if most ppl dont visit this page

Ah. Medical student. That explains it. If there's one weakness to the current medical system, beyond it's addiction to the teat of the big pharmeceuticals and the insistence that everything can be solved with a pill or a knife, it's the lack of psychological training medical students get.

Now of course I have never been through med school, but I know some doctors pretty close to me, and I have had some serious ins with several others while going through cancer treatment. I can tell you with certainty that I was appalled to see how I and others were treated by even the most well meaning doctors because of that lack of psychological training. People become charts and numbers, and their humanity is lost in the test results and technicalia.

But people are not test results and numbers and charts, and they operate not just on logic but emotions as well. Understanding that is paramount in the healing process for many people. I watched at least two of the men I was in treatment with die because they believed their doctor was infallible when he said they had no hope, and I watched another two laugh at their doctor's expense because he said they were going to die, but they rejected that and recovered.

I understand that doctors have a responsibility to tell people the truth, but it can be done in a way that preserves the greatest of all healing tools, which is hope. Many doctors don't understand that. Or the fact that it is the mind and the deeply held beliefs that controls the body to a much greater degree than we understand currently, because we create our reality based on what we believe to be true. That will become more well known with time.

Enough about that, however. I can assure you that BAMM is not available to everybody. Those who have it are carefully screened, and less than half of those who apply to be permitted to purchase it are accepted. I think we approve about 40% of those who apply. And yes, to get a copy, you must apply, and be approved first, and then you have the privilege of paying a large sum of money to get a copy.

Based on your post, I can tell you that you will have to understand the goal and the program a lot better before you would be approved to purchase it.

Based on the research I have done, you will probably as a doctor (eventually) achieve an income of between $250,000 and $750,000 a year. With an income like that, becoming a millionaire or a multi-millionaire is not hard, if you spend wisely and save or invest dilligently. Yet most doctors are not millionaires, from what I saw. Most instead are either spending everything they make, or actually in debt. And doctors are among the most highly paid professionals in the United States.

I doubt you would need BAMM regardless, if you are wise with your money.

My original plan was to become a multi-millionaire within 12 years. We're in Year 8, and I started with $5 in the bank. I took out no loan, and did all the work alone for the first three years, growing slowly but surely. Then I attracted the attention of Andrew, my current business partner, who demanded proof that my programs work. He's the son of a doctor, and his mother (the doctor) was fairly sure he was done growing, until he used my Grow Taller sub and gained an inch. That was back when it was in 3G, and pretty weak compared to it's current format. That convinced him, and he became my partner.

We have gone from me working alone and making peanuts, to every month we pay our bills and the staff we have. Never been in the red. And we have the lowest refund rate of any company I have ever seen. Andrew agrees. Yet we have the most generous and realistic refund policy in the industry. We offer the most advanced and most expensive subliminals in the world, hands down, and we could not possibly charge what we do and stay afloat if they didn't work.

What I'm going to challenge you to do is be a good scientist. Scientific method demands that you approach any unknown with not skepticism, but a state of genuinely admitted lack of knowledge as to what the answer is. in other words, neither being antagonistic nor protagonistic towards what you are attempting to determine the answer to.

You must remove your own bias from the equation to get an accurate answer. Most people cannot or do not do that, and they end up with a placebo effect based on expectations. But the interesting thing is, skeptics who resist allowing themselves to be influenced out of fear get the placebo effect in that they refuse to cooperate, and thus get the result they were trying to get regardless. Just like the "true believers" get results even when there is no real reason to. The difference is that at least 90% of the "true believers" have their placebo effect fade in 1-2 weeks, and then they see what's really there. Antagonistic skeptics just stonewall, and get nothing. Forever.

I can understand why you might be unwilling to allow the program to affect you, since you don't know what's in the script. But if you consider rationally, what would happen if I actually did something underhanded in scripting my programs, you'll see there's nothing to worry about. That's because of the phenomenon I call "transduction", which basically means that when you pump huge amounts of input into your subconscious mind, it will find it's way into the conscious mind. Meaning, eventually, someone would become consciously aware of anything I put in the program that shouldn't be there, and then I would be sunk.

I make my entire living doing this, and I do what I love doing. We make more money every year, like clockwork, because my programs work, they are the best, and we have our customers' trust. Consider that the most expensive you'll find otherwise are $37.50. Mine range from $9 to $3,000, and customs can go well beyond that. And yet we have people applying for permission to purchase BAMM at $3,000 a copy, and people waiting impatiently for more than a year for me to be willing to build customs.

Remember that just because your reality is X that the reality of those around you is not necessarily the same. Let go of your expectations and preconceived notions, and allow the program to do it's thing, or not. If you allow yourself to be neutral and open minded, you will see the truth, and the truth will set you free.

I have noted recently that regardless of what happens, BAMM will drag me back on course. And sometimes, I do mean drag.

For instance, recently I have been having some emotional turmoil regarding a couple of my ex's, whom I am dealing with again, and both at once. The things going on have distracted me in two different directions, and have also significantly depressed me recently. But when I turn on BAMM, it drags me away from all that and I find myself working. And even becoming less depressed, because it makes me do what gives me hope for a better future, and apparently causes me to seek out those people who make me feel better too.

I feel like BAMM is my lifeline. I know that no matter what, if I turn on BAMM, it will bring me back to where I need to be, and everything will be okay. That alone is worth having put in the blood, sweat and tears to build the thing.

I havent given any real serious try to the program yet. As I said earlier today is the 4th day of me trying ASC, so I am not expecting miracles in 1 week.
But then again as you said, I have done research in my career as a undergrad student and I am well aware of the observers bias. So I will give this my genuine time and effort without any bias of it helping me or not helping, no matter what i feel during the day, I will force my mind to accept this sub as a part of my routine.
But done judge my by saying I am a fear by skeptic. You dont know me? If I was one I would have just not used this sub and been off this site a long time back. On the contrary, I am a scientist, things that people just accept, I question before I believe a 100% just like gravity. I have asked other forum members about their experience. Listen to them, get their guidance and in fact I am so convinced that I am going to make a $90 purchase of finding the perfect job for my dad. Now my dad is an old school skeptic, and he considers these things bogus.
I, however, NEVER said your stuff is bogus. I said theres a lotta things out there that misguides ppl, which in turn is bogus. But for me to convince my dad, I have to believe a 100% in this, I was 70% convinced soo I am trying to get rid of the other 70% iffiness I have about subliminals. And I do that by reading these forums and questioning people who have gone through this. For something to work for me, I have to give my heart and soul and BELIEVE in it. And then program can manifest and results are astounding.

And I am plannin on practicing EM, the average salary for which is around $250K. But I am more interested in the business aspect of healthcare and wish to change my future income of $250K to $250M. And I would use BAMM for something like that since the MM stands for MultiMillionaire not Millionaire. And I was looking for some post where people discuss their financial assets n liquid quash and say yee thats the change. But I didnt see that so i was like well. I dont know.

But I see you got quite protective about your program and just shusshed me saying BAMM NOT FOR YOU. NOT NOW!
You didnt even wait to see if I am even interested in signing up for that right now. I am really not. Right now, I am goin thru subliminals that work on getting confidence, getting rid of fears stopping me form succeeding, etc.

After this post, I feel like have scored some negative points in your books. I am always concerned about being open and honest about speaking my mind. If I would have just remained dormant on the forum and said I finished ASC and its great, i finished alpha male and thats great, etc. I would have had more chance of securing BAMM in future, may be 1 yr from now. But thats okay, its not like I rely on BAMM to be a multimillionaire, all those ppl who are multimillionaire didnt use BAMM. And if later you deny me from BAMM, it wont stop me from gettin a BAMM lifestyle. I will find a way.

For now, as you suggest, I will keep on open mind just play the ASC track passively on my computer while I study. And make a journal on how I do every week or once every 2 weeks.
I am also buying a second program Finding the Right Job for my dad, its been 9 months since he hasnt had a job and the financial situation in the family is quite bad.
Anyways I will keep things posted. And hope for the best.