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08-10-2017, 02:35 PM
Post: #21
RE: Pheromones
(08-10-2017 12:38 PM)Travis Wrote:  Can someone recommend a good product/mix for the office?

If you can tolerate A-1, Captain by Pheromone Treasures is a beloved choice of many for the office. Another good alpha blend by them is Alpha Treasures.

Other would possibly recommend Wolf, by LAL, or Ascend by Pheromone XS. Some are turned off by the copulins in Ascend, in which case you can order without copulins. Ascend also has A-1.
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08-11-2017, 06:13 PM (This post was last modified: 08-11-2017 06:58 PM by wolverine_i_am.)
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RE: Pheromones
I've never tried mones before. Thinking of trying it out. Any tips? I've been looking at L2K or Evolve.

EDIT: Also should I go for the unscented ones or ones with a scent?
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08-13-2017, 02:58 AM
Post: #23
RE: Pheromones
I have been doing tons of research this weekend about the products. These are the ones that I'm more interested in at the moment.

Swoon, Grail of Affection, the hook up, the evolve / xist / cohesion combo, and Nude.

The ones I wanna try out later on are:
Aqua Vitae, Dirty Primitive, Alfa Maschio, L2K v1, Nude Alpha.

Thoughts regarding your experiences with them if you have tried?
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08-13-2017, 08:27 AM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2017 08:29 AM by RTBoss.)
Post: #24
RE: Pheromones
(08-11-2017 06:13 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote:  I've never tried mones before. Thinking of trying it out. Any tips? I've been looking at L2K or Evolve.

EDIT: Also should I go for the unscented ones or ones with a scent?

In my opinion, Alpha Dreams products (L2K, Alfa Maschio, etc.) are not what they used to be. Apparently their sourcing of -enone is different. They claim they've adjusted the products so there's no difference, but I personally won't touch 'em until I see veteran users of AD products say that the magic is back.

I always choose unscented, because it's just easier to use your own cologne. That way if you want to experiment combining different products (like Xist and Evolve for instance), you just put your own cover on - rather than getting everything in a scent you find you eventually don't like, or conflicting scents you cannot use together as a combo.

(08-13-2017 02:58 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote:  I have been doing tons of research this weekend about the products. These are the ones that I'm more interested in at the moment.

Swoon, Grail of Affection, the hook up, the evolve / xist / cohesion combo, and Nude.

The ones I wanna try out later on are:
Aqua Vitae, Dirty Primitive, Alfa Maschio, L2K v1, Nude Alpha.

Thoughts regarding your experiences with them if you have tried?

I haven't used Swoon or The Hookup. People love both. I can attest for Evolve, Xist, and Cohesion - though I use Xist the most out of those products. My wife's has had some very juicy orgasms thanks to Evolve, however. Wink She also like Grail of Affection. Some people swear by it, but it's never been an "amazing" product for me. It's alright, perhaps I just need to use it more.

Nude is supposed to be a "fun" product. I've never used it, just Nude Alpha - which I love. AV is a tough product to sort out. DP sits on my shelf, unused. Never used Alfa Maschio. L2k v1 is on my shelf, but post-problems for AD - so I don't use it anymore.
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08-13-2017, 08:37 AM
Post: #25
RE: Pheromones
Did you ever tried A314 RTBoss?

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08-13-2017, 09:15 AM
Post: #26
RE: Pheromones
(08-13-2017 08:37 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  Did you ever tried A314 RTBoss?

No, during the A314's reign as "king of all pheromones" years ago, I took a break from wearing - or even thinking about - pheromones.

Nice timing, eh?

Oh, well. Anyway, I hear the latest version isn't any good. I do like that they've (Androtics Direct) has stopped charging for unscented products, by releasing "stealth" scent technology. I'm just not sure if they're products are even trustworthy at all anymore.
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08-13-2017, 11:13 AM
Post: #27
RE: Pheromones
I ended up ordering Swoon, the hook up, and GOA last night just before I went to bed. I went for the vanilla scent. Yeah I should have gone for the unscented one. I can cover it up with spicebomb though, since it has vanilla in it.

I'll let you guys know how they go when I start using it.

I haven't read many forum reviews from AD products. Thankfully I didnt jump the gun yet. What do you mean by the magic is gone? Have there been reports that it is no longer the same?

How's AV tough? I'm intrigued to try it out later on.

I was actually thinking of ordering Nude last night, but it seemed Swoon had very similar features, just a little more sexual undertones. And the reviews on pherotruth convinced me to try Swoon first.

I'm definitely ordering Evolve, Cohesion and Xist soon. Heard amazing things about them. You can combine all three right?
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08-13-2017, 11:20 AM
Post: #28
RE: Pheromones
RTBoss, what do you suggest is the best for day time use? Streets, malls, etc.
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08-13-2017, 11:54 AM
Post: #29
RE: Pheromones
Alpha Maschio is oine I want to try. Read good things about it on HouseofPheromones.

Swoon is one I wanted to try too. Looking forward to reading your reports.

Just remember: while it IS possible to get "hits" from just walking around (I've gotten a few), it's much easier to tell what the mone is doing by talking to people. And especially people you know, so you can see what has changed and how the interactions are different.

My last interaction with my hairdresser while wearing Wolf, for example, gave me much info.
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08-13-2017, 11:56 AM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2017 12:03 PM by Alpha360.)
Post: #30
RE: Pheromones
(08-13-2017 09:15 AM)RTBoss Wrote:  
(08-13-2017 08:37 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  Did you ever tried A314 RTBoss?

No, during the A314's reign as "king of all pheromones" years ago, I took a break from wearing - or even thinking about - pheromones.

Nice timing, eh?

Oh, well. Anyway, I hear the latest version isn't any good. I do like that they've (Androtics Direct) has stopped charging for unscented products, by releasing "stealth" scent technology. I'm just not sure if they're products are even trustworthy at all anymore.
I'm reading conflicting reports about it so sometimes I wonder. I had A314 rev 32 spray and I got laid on it so yeah, I'm even reconsidering androtics.
And they also refunded me fully, no problems with them on that.

Even with all the bashing of androctics, there is still faith somewhere Rolleyes

At some point I wanted to retest everything, forget all the reviews I read and make my own opinion unaffected by outside reviews.
So many stuff can go bad about a review.

For example at the beginning of the BW era, there were a lot of bashing on it, almost everyone on pherotruth complaining that it didn't work except a few. Now it's almost like this didn't exist, a lot of guys are now treating BW like a normal product that often works. I wonder how we got there.

Wolf is the opposite, when pherotruth was just born, everyone adored wolf like it was the "thing", the closest thing to A314 and cheaper, that's what the vets on pherotruth were swearing upon if you look at the old post from 2009 to 2011. But now a new era is born, and in that era almost everyone bash wolf as a weak pheromone.

With all that happened I have a hard time trusting reviews, there is too many conflicting reports.

It makes me think about screen size, back in the days 4.2" was a very large screen size, and now 5" is too small Big Grin

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08-13-2017, 12:19 PM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2017 12:26 PM by Alpha360.)
Post: #31
RE: Pheromones
Another thing to think about. A314 is the most look upon pheromone, the holy grail for the one who used it when androtics was at his best.

But still in that "perfect" age looked upon as glorious for some there were still problems. There has all been 32 revision of 314, according to Shannon even during that golden era A314 revisions differed and wasn't consistent, sometimes it was messy and the version wasn't as great.

Yet in that golden age Androtics supposedly produced the most consistent working pheromones product. I read that from Shannon own testing on pheromonetalk.

So now with product like wolf or BW or xist or swoon or what ever. How many revision there is; how consistent they are really. They hasn't been many test on that.
And you know why ? obviously they are too many pheromones to test.

So in my opinion A314 is bit like Microsoft right now. It has been tested over and over, probably the most tested pheromone out there with countless reviews, countless revision. So we know all the possible flaws from every angle.

Other products doesn't have that much history, I don't even know if there was a revision of wolf for example, never heard of it. Though wolf was the most tested pheromone on pherotruth, with AV.
But no revesion, no batch number, no nothing. At best I heard there is a revision of voodoo about the scent.

One could ask why they even bother writing a revision number on their product when a lot of others manufacturer don't. Obviously I can see why some don't.

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08-13-2017, 12:24 PM
Post: #32
RE: Pheromones
(08-13-2017 11:54 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  Swoon is one I wanted to try too. Looking forward to reading your reports.

Just remember: while it IS possible to get "hits" from just walking around (I've gotten a few), it's much easier to tell what the mone is doing by talking to people. And especially people you know, so you can see what has changed and how the interactions are different.

My last interaction with my hairdresser while wearing Wolf, for example, gave me much info.

Oh yeah, I plan to wear 'Swoon' around my colleagues too. I shall see how it affects them.

Yeah that makes sense. A lotta people say most of these pheros are more for night outings, and that you can't really hit people in the mall cause of not long enough exposure. Regardless or not whether it is strong enough to affect people that quickly, they haven't factored in the option of actually talking to people during the day time for a few mins or longer, which most people aren't able to do. Obviously this won't be a problem for me. I am hoping that pheros will give me an extra 10-20% edge when I'm on dates and such.
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08-13-2017, 12:50 PM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2017 12:52 PM by SargeMaximus.)
Post: #33
RE: Pheromones
(08-13-2017 12:24 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote:  
(08-13-2017 11:54 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  Swoon is one I wanted to try too. Looking forward to reading your reports.

Just remember: while it IS possible to get "hits" from just walking around (I've gotten a few), it's much easier to tell what the mone is doing by talking to people. And especially people you know, so you can see what has changed and how the interactions are different.

My last interaction with my hairdresser while wearing Wolf, for example, gave me much info.

Oh yeah, I plan to wear 'Swoon' around my colleagues too. I shall see how it affects them.

Yeah that makes sense. A lotta people say most of these pheros are more for night outings, and that you can't really hit people in the mall cause of not long enough exposure. Regardless or not whether it is strong enough to affect people that quickly, they haven't factored in the option of actually talking to people during the day time for a few mins or longer, which most people aren't able to do. Obviously this won't be a problem for me. I am hoping that pheros will give me an extra 10-20% edge when I'm on dates and such.

Oh they no doubt will. I've noticed people "snap" in response to my mones within seconds. But "steering" is definitely a thing. You'll see, but you gotta be congruent with it.

I wouldn't even say it's that, I'd say more like the pheros set the stage of how things "ought" to go down, and if you can pick up on that, you'll be able to play within that "scenario". Hard to describe but I'm definitely seeing how Wolf does this.

If you play your role things will go fine.

It may take multiple tests to discover what your role is, but usually you can tell by how people treat and react to you.
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08-13-2017, 07:48 PM
Post: #34
RE: Pheromones
I'm going to bed, so can't get to all the questions tonight...but...

Alpha360, Androtics is WAY past rev32. You can't even get rev32 anymore. It's something else now, and reports say it sucks hard.

Wolverine, Swoon might be great for daygame or whatever. You should definitely test it. Quick interactions are tough, though...Mones work best for long repeat exposures, in my experience. Definitely would stay away from overt sexual mones, however. At least buffer them with something social. Studies show that A1 is comforting and extremely attractive to women, as well able to cause deference in men. The only issue with A1, which is in Cohesion and Grail of Affection, is it can cause depression in men who are sensitive to it.
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08-13-2017, 08:04 PM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2017 08:04 PM by Travis.)
Post: #35
RE: Pheromones
Hey all, I received Glace in the mail three days ago and have been testing it out.

It works! Perhaps the quality has gone down, as RTBoss says, I have only used this version. But I did get some nice self effects. It put me in a good mood consistently, to the point of giggling. It made my conversations with people flow easily. Never had to search for words. I even made my dad laugh (which never happens). My friend, who can be very insecure, was much more comfortable than usual when we hung out.

I recommend it to socially awkward people - it greases the social gears Smile

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08-13-2017, 08:11 PM
Post: #36
RE: Pheromones
(08-13-2017 08:04 PM)Travis Wrote:  Hey all, I received Glace in the mail three days ago and have been testing it out.

It works! Perhaps the quality has gone down, as RTBoss says, I have only used this version. But I did get some nice self effects. It put me in a good mood consistently, to the point of giggling. It made my conversations with people flow easily. Never had to search for words. I even made my dad laugh (which never happens). My friend, who can be very insecure, was much more comfortable than usual when we hung out.

I recommend it to socially awkward people - it greases the social gears Smile

Real quick - Glace wouldn't be likely affected, as it doesn't contain the re-sourced -enone as a driver of the product. Glace is a pure social mone. You should be good.
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08-13-2017, 09:17 PM
Post: #37
RE: Pheromones
Is cohesion necessary by the way? I'll probably just order evolve and xist tonight.
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08-14-2017, 12:04 AM
Post: #38
RE: Pheromones
None of them are Shy The less you order the less disappointed you will be if buy something you will never use. The only reason you would need to buy more at a time would be because you live far away. If you live close buy only one at a time. Don't waste your money.

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08-14-2017, 01:04 AM
Post: #39
RE: Pheromones
Oh I do live far lol. This is why I wanna save on the shipping costs, rather than to order twice. I think I'll just stick with Evolve and Xist for now, unmasked. And I'll cover it with a stronger fragrance.

I won't order Nude for now. I'll experiment with Swoon, since they are both almost similar.
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08-14-2017, 01:56 AM (This post was last modified: 08-14-2017 01:56 AM by Alpha360.)
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You are in Europe if I remember correctly, it's not that far I can assure you.

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