Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Tigerismyspirit]

Does anyone know if DMSI help balance your chakras? I was doing some excercise shown by a healer and it seems several of my chakras are blocking the energy. Heart, root, sacral, and solar plexus chakras are overwhelmingly imbalanced.

[Daredevil]

Hey Shannon I Don't know this is breaking rule 4 but do you think you can Put in Soul Retrival or reintregrating split off aspects of your Psyche in the healing part of DMSI. Maybe that's what's holding back healing in many Subliminals. The lack of soul Retrival.

[Daredevil]

@Shannon

Have you ever considered that what made E2 so "successful" is it's gentle approach, instead of a forced march?

Why not take this approach with DMSI A?

E2 goes at your pace. DMSI goes at it’s own pace. DMSI wins for speed. E2 wins for gentleness

DMSI wins for speed?... in theory yes, (if you execute) but real world results, no.

E2 will deeply heal you, but it will not go faster than you can handle.

Why would you want it to go faster than you can handle? That is where resistance comes from!

DMSI has Changed, Shannon has now made it the Mean between those two Extremes for the healing portion now.

[Zane]

Where is Shannon, anyway?

[Shawn]

I guess he is simply very busy with his custom project.

[Zane]

I guess he is simply very busy with his custom project.

Yeah, I wonder what it is. I did remember him mentioning that if sub works well then he will make it public.. IIRC.

[Zane]

Hey Shannon I Don't know this is breaking rule 4 but do you think you can Put in Soul Retrival or reintregrating split off aspects of your Psyche in the healing part of DMSI. Maybe that's what's holding back healing in many Subliminals. The lack of soul Retrival.

What's that?

[Zane]

Does anyone know if DMSI help balance your chakras? I was doing some excercise shown by a healer and it seems several of my chakras are blocking the energy. Heart, root, sacral, and solar plexus chakras are overwhelmingly imbalanced.

I do think DMSI works on Chakra also.. I remember people mentioning something about heart chakra... Also It works in Solar Plexus(Remember you said that u were feeling something coming out from ur tummy when u were really sad but still u loved it) I think ur saral was being cleansed. If u want u can get Reiki

[thor2014]

Hey Shannon I Don't know this is breaking rule 4 but do you think you can Put in Soul Retrival or reintregrating split off aspects of your Psyche in the healing part of DMSI. Maybe that's what's holding back healing in many Subliminals. The lack of soul Retrival.

I would rather we did not incorporate shamanic practices into the sub its dangerous. Its like requesting kundalini awakening. I remember Nox discussing this at great lenght.

[DarkPlouf]

Hey Shannon I Don't know this is breaking rule 4 but do you think you can Put in Soul Retrival or reintregrating split off aspects of your Psyche in the healing part of DMSI. Maybe that's what's holding back healing in many Subliminals. The lack of soul Retrival.

I would rather we did not incorporate shamanic practices into the sub its dangerous. Its like requesting kundalini awakening. I remember Nox discussing this at great lenght.

Is this really a "shamanic" practice though ? I recall many times Shannon talking about how a part of yourself could be trapped and "lost" when a traumatic experience happens.
That's basically the same concept as losing your "soul fragments" or etheric body or whatever else you may find on the subject.
So it's not that "shamanic" if you go with interpretation that it is just a snapshot of your subconscious trapped in time...

I say, if that's doable Shannon should go for it, I side with Daredevil.

Maybe that's what's holding back healing in many Subliminals. The lack of soul Retrival.

The reason why Western medicine fails with depression and emotional healing and will always fail in that area is because they don't even scratch the underlying issues, which doesn't seem to lie on a physical level at all.
Let's go further than that if we can .

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...#pid197238

Lately, been overloaded with what I'm working on and life. The custom is coming along nicely, but it is an insanely big job. I just finished Phase 2 of 6 today. Fortunately, Phase 1 and 2 are the big ones, so it should be relatively downhill from here, although transforming the skeleton script to this goal is Phase 3 and it's not a small task either.

The other day I figured out something in the script that I believe is responsible for about 80% of the remaining resistance, and I found a solution for it and implemented it in Beast 16 for testing. If this works as expected, it should clear some serious issues we have been having that have eluded me so far. The issue (if this is what it is) is very subtle and a very clever effort by those who are trying to find ways to escape to do so.

Beast 16 is about half way built, although I am by no means prioritizing its build given how much other stuff I have to do. It will be finished being built in another 2-3 days probably.

Resumed B15 testing, and have had some really amazing results. Very encouraging; all we really need now is to nail down the timing of results. B16 makes some huge strides forward in terms of power and should also do the same with speed of effect. Let's hope this is it.

I will try to catch up with answering posts, but still swamped overall.

[Shannon]

Shannon,
Would you ever consider ditching the aura part of DMSI and just focus on everything else that would get us laid?

You do realize that the key element of DMSI achieving it's goals, has been by design, since day one, the aura, right? If it wouldn't take me days of work I know would be wasted, I would build a "c" without it and show you how preposterous the results would be.

I realize that the majority of us are using DMSI so we can have a lot of sex with one or more partners we wouldn't be able to get under normal conditions.I realize that you've put everything and the kitchen sink in this thing with mediocre results.

Mediocre results by whose standards? I have had results that you don't know about because you would never believe it. I know others who have too. There are a lot of people getting at least good results from DMSI, although some of them choose not to post here because of guys like you attacking them. Plus, we have to consider that what DMSI is attempting to do is, according to everyone "impossible" in the first place. So your point of view is pretty skewed. What you're seeing is me pulling off what amounts to a miracle, slowly but surely, doing stuff that shouldn't even be possible. It takes time, especially since I'm decoding something I can't see, hear, smell, taste or touch and which is irrational and illogical, which changes from person to person. What I hear is someone who can't do anything close to what I'm doing bitching because it takes time for me, probably the only person on earth who could even hope to pull off something like this, to perform what amounts to miracles.

I realize that your "models" have yet to deliver.

My models deliver on a daily basis, my friend. They have been delivering on a daily basis for more than 15 years now. And while the models aren't perfect, I can assure you that they do work, and they prove themselves constantly. My life would not be what it is without them, and neither would you have anything beyond 4G subs to complain about. 5G came about because my models revealed a huge surprise to me about the subconscious mind, and it was true when I could not believe it.

Your expectations of what they should be doing and what they are doing and being used to do are skewed. I'm not modeling what will work for you. I'm modeling what will produce the best overall results for the most possible people over long periods of time. In every bell curve there is the left and right side where there are outliers. Some people will be outliers no matter what I do or don't do.

Furthermore, whenever you are trying to work with a large and diverse group, you have to make compromises. I could make DMSI blow away 10 or 20% of the population and leave 80% with next to nothing, and I could have done that a long time ago. Instead, I'm trying to make it work and achieve its goals repeatedly for the most possible people, leaving the fewest possible outliers. The fewer I leave behind, the harder it will be and longer it will take to achieve that goal, because I can't ever have it stop working for anyone I had it working for to begin with in the process.

When I model these things I am modeling for years and decades, not this week. Not this month. Not today, or for the next few hours. I want what DMSI ends up being to be the best it can be in the long term, and for the most possible people. You are being very shortsighted by comparison.

I realize that you're a sublimal guru but it wouldn't hurt to try going about things a little differently and instead of replying "its resistance" to the negative feedback actually making real changes to the program.

If you think I am such a subliminal guru, why aren't you trusting that I know what I'm doing, and that maybe I know what's what a little bit better than you do? Why are you telling me what's wrong with a script that you can't see, when you almost certainly haven't even spent 1/25th of the time I have studying this subject? And how do you know I'm not "making real changes to the program"? Have you seen the changelogs these builds produce?

Just because you don't like the position I take on what is what doesn't make me wrong. It doesn't mean we aren't dealing with what I have concluded is the best explanation for the challenges we face right now. It doesn't mean that what you think the program needs to have done to change it is what will achieve the goals of the program. There are very good reasons why I am making these and not you, and why I am of the belief that things are the way I believe they are and why I do things the way I do and stay the course. I am the captain of the ship, and I fully intend to do my best to get us all to where we are trying to go. But we are going to do this my way, because I have a very good understanding of what is going on behind the scenes that none of you guys has. I do not share a lot of things with you that go into building these programs, and my research and development and experiments and so forth.

The negative feedback we are seeing is almost entirely coming from resistance in one form or another, and this is verified because I have predicted what people would do in response to that resistance, with several of the last releases, and every time I have done so I have been correct. Being able to make accurate predictions is a very important part of validating any theory or model in science. It shows that things the theory says hold true not only for what has happened, but what will happen in the future as well.

You guys are impatient. This job of making DMSI is so ridiculous that I honestly don't think I would have even started it if I had known in the beginning how long it would take, but I made a promise and I'm fulfilling it. I am also making solid progress with each release, which is also proving that I am on the right path.

The reason why people are so exhausted is because theres too much shit in DMSI.

You state this as a fact, when it is an opinion. I will share with you why I know your opinion is wrong.

DMSI is a very small ant compared to Beast 15 for the complexity of the script, the number of script statements and the demands it places on the user's mind, energy and resources. Yet Beast 15 works and works well. Beast 15 is easily several times longer and more complex than DMSI 3.2. If "too much shit" was why people are becoming exhausted, then Beast should immediately exhaust the testers and not achieve its goal. On the contrary, it does nothing to exhaust them, even after many hours of continuous exposure, and it achieves it's goal. The only thing I have left to accomplish design spec on Beast is making it achieve it's goal within the required time limit.

DMSI also is very demanding of the user for energy, as it's goal is to generate a huge amount of energy in the personal aura, and modulate that energy not only to be powerful enough to affect multiple people at at time and at a distance, but to do so powerfully enough to influence their minds and actions. The amount of energy required to do that for even one person to be affected is enormous, and you guys are trying to affect multiple people at a time. There is a challenge sourcing enough energy to do this, and all of the other goals of the program, which is part of why for example we turned off the auric shielding and LRS in 3.2.

But DMSI is also demanding of a very lazy part of your awareness, which would much prefer to do as little as possible. Not just demanding, but demanding for long periods of time. That can produce tiredness as well, although that is a drop in the bucket compared to the two main reasons why people experience exhaustion on DMSI, which are:

1. It is demanding more energy that I currently know how to source continuously, and
2. It takes a lot of energy to achieve the goals when you cooperate, but when you have parts not cooperating, energy requirements skyrocket.

We needed a house you built a backwards city.Remarkable but unneccessary.

You needed a house, and I have been building a solid foundation, because until you have a proper foundation, you cannot build a house. You just can't see what I'm doing.

Make it gender specific ,add social skills and social proof,beef up pheromones and manifestation,instead of a morphine drip add something that makes us just feel awesome all the time and the people around us too.

There is not necessarily a good enough reason to make it gender specific so far; the only reason I can think of to do that would be to prevent cases of female users being assaulted for sex. So far I don't know if I think that's a realistic thing to expect.

It already deals in social skills and social proof, and does so quite well for those who execute.

The pheromones work well, too, but most of you are stuck on using artificial pheromones at hundreds of times the dose your body naturally produces, and wonder why you aren't getting results that obvious. If I was to attempt to get your body to produce hundreds of times more pheromones than normal, I would almost certainly be pushing your hormonal system to extremes that could and probably would be not only very dangerous, but unsustainable and unpredictable. I do plan to enhance pheromone module, but I'm not going to do so at the expense of making the results unsafe because you guys don't understand how pheromones are produced or what their production requires of the body.

Manifestation requires a LOT of energy, and again, we are already having difficulty sourcing enough energy safely.

The morphine drip makes you feel good when you execute. It's only in there because it acts as a marker for execution and an incentive to execute. Having it make you feel awesome all the time would reduce motivation and potentially burn you out on or addict you to your own brain chemistry. And when you execute the script for the aura, the aura already makes those around you feel good.

The very first version of DMSI had a great aura but it lacked the support needed for most to do anything with it.Then put a $300 price tag out the gate(no free upgrade)if it works raise price to $400.If it really works $500.Make one with aura one without aura.It would be preposterous(ly good)

You are going to have to trust in the program's creator, that he knows what he is doing and be patient. There is no guarantee I will ever be able to achieve the design spec, but if I didn't believe I could I'd have given up and moved on to developing something else already.

And making a program with and without an aura, when the entire design premise is to cause people to respond to you because your aura is an aphrodisiac as a result of the program makes.... no sense.

[Shannon]

Shannon I am again bringing up the idea of exposing water to DMSI,

Edit: A theory claim that water have a memory or consciousness
And since our body is almost 70% water and water being one of the 4 elements of our creation,
Can you possibly use the module to detect whether this will be beneficial/safe to experiment with?
If so what would you recommend the number of loops to expose to it?

I have before exposed 3.1A to water and whether it was placebo or not, I did notice a big shift in the mood and relaxation, however I did not continue the experiment

Can you input these information into your models? I would consider experimenting with this.

Thank you

If the body is already composed mostly of water, are you not already exposing that water to DMSI every time you listen on speakers?

[Shannon]

Whats your current subliminal task at hand, Shannon?

I'm building the custom, and Beast 16, and preparing Weight Loss 7.0 for work. It will not be built soon, but it is being prepared for that eventuality.

I'm also doing R&D and testing B15.