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Social skills 2.0
08-31-2017, 01:52 PM (This post was last modified: 08-31-2017 01:54 PM by ReeZoX.)
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RE: Social skills 2.0
(08-31-2017 10:28 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:  
(08-31-2017 09:52 AM)ReeZoX Wrote:  But the "not so social-guy" may have a better chance of getting together with the woman he wants to get with. It all depends on which frame you're coming from.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Based on what I've seen and read

I'll try and make an example. We have Joe and we have Bob. Bob is the loud super-social guy who talks with everyone and is seen as a high-status guy. He always hangs out with the hottest and coolest girls. He is best-friend with Joe.
Joe in this instance is not necessarily anti-social guy, but he's definitely not a social guy. He is social when he wants to and when he actually gives a f*ck, he turns on his "charm".
Pretty much everyone else knows Joe is an "IDGAF" type of guy, and generally doesn't care about other people, or at least not interacting with them. But when he does find a woman who catches his eye. He is able to turn on this charm and show her that she's special. Of course, he still has to do this in ways which are non-needy and all that. But he has the ability of "choosing" people to interact with in a way Bob doesn't have the possibility of since Bob is seen as the "social guy".

This ability to choose makes people feel they're special, and that is something that CAN give Joe the upper-hand in regards to specific people.

Now as a "Bob" you can still make people feel special and all that, it's not a zero-sum game. But in general occasions, Joe will have the upper-hand in charming specific people.
Similar to how looking good/having good fashion can make you get an upper hand when first interacting with new people/women.

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09-01-2017, 08:27 AM
Post: #22
RE: Social skills 2.0
I see what you mean.

Yeah to me, social skills is the ability to "turn oin the charm".

In your examples, both guys have social skills, they just apply it differently.

I'm talking about a sub where those social skills are taught and improved.

Some of us (like me) don't have very good social skills, and neither Joe nor Bob's "method" would work for us.
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09-21-2017, 07:22 AM
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RE: Social skills 2.0
To add to this idea. My Ideal Social Skills Sub would have:

- cool confidence
- supremely relaxed in all social situations
- ability to thrive in new social situations
- master the ability to build relationships
- master the ability to maintain relationships long term
- attract people to us that we would naturally vibe with
- DMSI Snipper but for connecting with people/Instant Rapport
- When talking with strangers it feels like you've known them forever. Treating everyone like your best friend.
- High Status Body Language
- Read Body Language
- Humor/Story Telling
- Charisma and Charm ALWAYS ON.
- Flirting power & Seduction skills
- Motivation to talk to strangers and make friends
- Autopilot from DMSI
- Manifesting FAME/Become famous.
- Persuasion skills (maybe a persuasion snipper or aura making people naturally want to do as you say)
- Boldness/Fearlessness in social situations
- IDGAF/Social Dominance attitude
- Protection from others manipulating you (manipulation shield)
- God-Like Frame Control (Nothing shakes you)
- Clam and collected if shit hits the fan
- Leadership traits
- Situational Aura. Similar to BASE were the Aura changes based on the situation at play.
- Assertiveness
- Anti-Sniper to repel those who mean you harm. Maybe make it manual activation? Sometimes you have to do business with shitty people and it could get in the way.

If this sub existed I would pay easily $500 for it. My line of work needs this.
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09-21-2017, 06:04 PM
Post: #24
RE: Social skills 2.0
AM6 Basically is a Social Skills sub. If you read the list it covers all you need for social skills.

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09-21-2017, 07:44 PM
Post: #25
RE: Social skills 2.0
(09-21-2017 06:04 PM)Daredevil Wrote:  AM6 Basically is a Social Skills sub. If you read the list it covers all you need for social skills.

AM6 is an alpha male sub with social skills being one small component. The idea behind this sub is to create a focused social skills sub which incorporates many of the soft skills such as emotional intelligence, charm and charisma that AM6 doesn't necessarily touch upon or only does lightly.
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09-21-2017, 07:48 PM
Post: #26
RE: Social skills 2.0
Read the product description and the list of what's in there. It has a huge percentage of modules for socializing.

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09-22-2017, 12:58 AM
Post: #27
RE: Social skills 2.0
(09-21-2017 07:48 PM)Daredevil Wrote:  Read the product description and the list of what's in there. It has a huge percentage of modules for socializing.

Yes Daredevil, you are correct in identifying that AM6 contains modules on socialising
such as:

"An improved on circle of friends manifestation sequence, so that the friends you manifest are genuine, long term friends who will help you for the long haul, instead of stabbing you in the back."

Develop and display a fantastic sense of humor, which will make you socially popular and attractive to others, especially beautiful women."

"Be entirely comfortable in social situations of any type, whether they are familiar to you or not."

However, these are only a surface level of what social skills and socialising is about. These do not include; charm, charisma, emotional intelligence, mastering the ability to build and maintain relationships long term (relationship management), persuasion skills, social intelligence, influence, network building etc etc. These are all the soft skills that a focused social skills sub aims to incorporate.
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09-22-2017, 05:17 AM
Post: #28
RE: Social skills 2.0
It's does include 95% of what you just put down, it's just you didn't look for it.

If you want a standalone sub for social skills that's fine, my point was to say AM6 deals with that.

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09-22-2017, 08:40 AM
Post: #29
RE: Social skills 2.0
(09-22-2017 05:17 AM)Daredevil Wrote:  It's does include 95% of what you just put down, it's just you didn't look for it.

If you want a standalone sub for social skills that's fine, my point was to say AM6 deals with that.

Yes I did look through the product page. That is how I copy and pasted the above product design goals. What I mentioned is not present. Have a look for yourself.
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09-22-2017, 10:03 AM
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RE: Social skills 2.0
1. OGSF full script.
2. Self blame release: forgive yourself, learn from, fix, refuse to make the same mistake again, and move on. Outgrow blame as a response, and outgrow making the same mistake.
3. Act on opportunities that you want to act on, instead of hiding, making excuses, etc.
4. Decisively and aggressively go after and achieve everything you want to achieve, without harming yourself or anyone else in the process.
5. Develop An Aura Of Commanding Authority and masculine Sexiness which causes other men to respond with respect and admiration, and women to be attracted to me.
6. Enhance, improve and express your sense of humor to make your own life more enjoyable, and make others naturally enjoy your company more.
7. socializing is a fun game
8. social confidence
9. Understand that nobody is better than you.
10. Healing emotional, mental and physical wounds, and move into being and expressing your full potential.
11. Destroy hatred and resentment within yourself.
12. Kill negative feelings for women.
13. Kill judgementalism toward others.
14. Kill approach anxiety with women
15. Generate a constant internal state that harmonizes with others and causes them to be naturally comfortable with and attracted to you.
16. Be completely needless when it comes to women.
17. Dissolve defensiveness and enhance appreciation for women, without allowing them to use you, hurt you or take advantage of you.
18. Warmth for others.
19. Kill clinginess and avoidant behavior; comfortably and successfully face and deal with what you used to avoid.
20. Seek the challenge
21. Definitively expand beyond your comfort zone.
22. Refuse to make excuses or accept excuses for yourself or from yourself.
23. Refuse to justify actions that are not moving you forward, or accept that behavior from yourself.
24. Destroy jealousy.
25. Make yourself decisive.
26. instantly recognizing (or knowing beforehand?) and boldly going after and achieving opportunities in the moment that interest you.
27. Develop, enhance and employ your leadership skills internally and externally.
28. Comfortable/encouraging going out alone
29. Pushing you to expand social circle with people who are good for you in the directions you are growing
30. Being aware of what is going on around you
31. Noticing, reading and understanding the body language of women around you and subtle signals they send to you.
32. High value high class high status Alpha male presence
33. masculine, commanding, sexy voice
34. Positive thinking/positive attitude
35. overcome Victim Mentality
36. Comfortable with people noticing and staring at you
37. Self Acceptance while striving to improve yourself.
38. Easily and comfortably initiate social interactions
39. initiative, overcoming laziness, do what needs to be done
40. Become a social extrovert
41. develop and express irresistible charm that causes others to be attracted to you.
42. graceful movement
43. develop increasing personal magnetism
44. know what you want from yourself, life and women.
45. Comfortable and confident taking the lead in all situations (social, etc.)
46. Knows himself, who he is, and is unafraid to express his true personality around others. Unconcerned with judgement, ridicule, etc. for it.
47. Social motivation
48. overcome fear of sex, women, sexual performance insecurity.
49. go after what you want fearlessly
50. automatically notice and naturally respond in exactly the right ways to IOIs from women to achieve the desired outcome with her.
51. making others comfortable being around you while maintaining their respect, feeling appreciated as they deserve to be appreciated, and better about themselves for having been around you.
52. Give yourself all the love, affection and attention you need and want, so that you are freed of neediness from getting it from others when it is not being offered to you naturally without you asking for it or looking for it.
53. attract only high quality women to yourself.
54. kill abandonment issues.
55. Kill fear of rejection
56. feeling deservedness (success, money, women, happiness, sex, romance, finances, life)
57. Give myself permission to be high value, high status, high class alpha dominant male, and understand that nobody else's permission is necessary or valid in the matter.
58. gratitude, thankfulness and appreciation of and for the good things and people in your life, and genuinely and fully appreciating them in the moment.
59. full expression of masculine power
60. Allow and own (completely unapologetic about) your physical desires an attraction towards women, but maintain control of it at all times.
61. Love, enjoy, appreciate women in general, and disconnect from and remain unaffected by women who are unworthy of that from you.
62. Shameless expressions of attraction for women if uninvolved in a committed relationship, done in a way that enhances your class, value and alpha-ness in the eyes of the women observing you do so.
63. own your desires, while remaining always in control of them.
64. Bold, brave expression of masculine desires.
65. Total detachment from any outcome concerning women or sex.
66. When you give to others, give to them sheerly for the joy of giving, genuinely and without expectation of anything in return – while preventing others from using you, taking advantage of you, mistreating you or hurting you because of it.
67. Automatically and purposely take things in a way that is funny, and get everyone else around you to laugh
68. playful bantering for humor
69. kill laziness
70. increasing success with women romantically, sexually and in whatever other ways you choose to be successful with them.
71. action in the face of fear/anxiety for personal growth
72. self coaching in real time to make the best possible decisions and be as successful and effective in achieving goals as possible.
73. passionate about achieving goals; more passionate lover; more passion for life in general.
74. be congruent mind, body and emotions with being a high class, high value, high status dominant alpha male.
75. genuinely comfortable wherever he is, whomever he is with, and whatever he is doing.
76. gets into flow/the zone easily
77. is the star of his own life the CENTER of his reality, in positive ways that make things better for himself and those around him, without generating false ego.
78. Holds absolute belief in himself
79. zero argumentativeness with others, or need to prove yourself to be right all the time.
80. Has positive self feedback loop (self confidence/believing in self)
81. Ability to effortlessly put focus where it matters and should be, without being wasted.
82. Take no shit attitude
83. calm, cool and aloof attitude which makes you difficult or impossible to upset or manipulate.
84. Self directed, but puts (false) ego aside and makes choices based on what the best way forward is.
85. Increase decisiveness
86. Naturally, comfortably and increasingly outgoing and extroverted around other people.
87. Accept yourself as a genuine winner.
88. In response to negative social feedback, assess whether there is a chance to improve yourself kin some way; if there is, shamelessly take it and make yourself better than you were. If not, ignore the negative social feedback and maintain your own reality.
89. Incredible compelling and magnetic, respect from guys, crazy attraction from women
90. Leads himself always, leads others when that is necessary, desirable or is the most appropriate and the best way to achieve his goals.
91. Generate your own positive state, internal good feelings from within, no need to rely on environment for that
92. Comes across as authentic and congruent because he is
93. Honest, open, expressive, and direct with everyone
94. Naturally becomes the center of attention without trying and is comfortable with it
95. Believes in himself and his positive sense of self worth/sense of self regardless of anything else that occurs otherwise.
96. Doesn't look, want, need, care about for approval from others.
97. doesn't ask, just takes what is his and what he is entitled to
98. Develop healthy selfishness and get your own needs met first.
99. Seek out win-win situation but always choose to satisfy your own needs over those of others if a win-win situation cannot be found or created.
100. Be comfortable and accepting of conflict and competition and can step up to it, win and take the lead.
101. Confident and mature enough to know when to put ego aside, and does so for the sake of achieving goals.
102. Increase wisdom and maturity.
103. Shift chasing women and sex to be less important than achieving his goals and making himself successful in life.
104. Never qualifies himself; others always qualify to him
105. Disconnect from insecurity-based possessiveness of others.
106. allows others to participate in ways that make them feel valid and enjoy his company.
107. Addictive personality to be around
108. Comfortable breaking social norms and being outrageous
109. Stays busy and productive-doing for the sake of growth, success, self improvement and progress toward goals
110. Time is very important for him, very valuable asset, one he refuses to disrespect or waste or allow others to disrespect or waste.
111. easy to face, deal with and overcome guilt, shame and fear.
112. quickly transcends negatives, and achieves positives instead.
113. Reframes failure as only happening if he gives up trying; refuses to ever give up trying; and therefore always succeeds.
114. Compares himself to himself and no one else
115. Open to all positive outcomes concerning sex and romance, but attached to none
116. Recognize mistakes, learn from mistakes, forgive self for them, and refuse to make them again.
117. Unconcerned with losing a woman you are involved with or dating, because a woman who wants to be with you will naturally make the choices that result in that outcome, and otherwise she is just wasting your time.
118. Being your own Alpha Male, and unconcerned with fitting anyone else's definition of what an alpha male is or does.
119. Get out and socialize, get social exposure
120. enjoy meeting new people and making new friends
121. ever increasing self esteem
122. reject and destroy permission-seeking within yourself.
123. balance your brain hemispheres
124. alpha male pheromonal signals
125. upon deciding on a goal or course of action, immediately make it happen
126. disconnection from taking criticism personally; ignore and disregard everything but constructive criticism.
127. others automatically give you social proof in every way possible
128. Limitless; everything is possible.
129. honor yourself
130. develop a sense of honor and integrity.
131. abundance mindset; make positive abundance your reality.
132. Develop a dynamic personality that attracts the attention and interest of others in positive ways.
133. Have goals, ambitions and dreams to pursue, and pursue them.
134. Unleash and express your inner alpha.
135. Accept that you are the alpha; accept the responsibility to lead yourself and others because you are the alpha; lead yourself and others because you are the alpha.
136. Potential for unlimited greatness, and pursuing that potential.
137. Ultra Success
138. Only start things that are worth your time and effort to complete, and always finish what you start.
139. Do what you say you will do, and say exactly what you mean.
140. Develop increasing clarity of mind and awareness in all ways and concerning all things.
141. Develop and express your own distinct signature style of living, action, speech and presence which makes you at once unique and admired by others.
142. Cause your physical form to become more and more an expression of alpha male traits.



Here. As I said before, you didn't look for the full list on the forum and I showed this to you already another time.


And as I said before, AM6 has most of what you want in a social sub, but if you want a standalone sub for you that is fine.

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E2 End Date: November 1st 2017

UD Start Date: November 1st 2017
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09-22-2017, 10:50 AM
Post: #31
RE: Social skills 2.0
This was the initial list, it is not what went into AM6. Here is the revised list:

Quote:Alright, so I have made the decision as to what is going into AM 6.0. Here is the revised list. This list passes the models. Let's see if I can find a way to make this work:

AM 6.0 Script Additions 2.0

1. OGSF full script.
2. Self blame release: forgive yourself, learn from, fix, refuse to make the same mistake again, and move on. Outgrow blame as a response, and outgrow making the same mistake.
3. Act on opportunities that you want to act on, instead of hiding, making excuses, etc.
4. Decisively and aggressively go after and achieve everything you want to achieve, without harming yourself or anyone else in the process.
5. Develop An Aura Of Commanding Authority and masculine Sexiness which causes other men to respond with respect and admiration, and women to be attracted to me.
6. Enhance, improve and express your sense of humor to make your own life more enjoyable, and make others naturally enjoy your company more.
7. socializing is a fun game
8. social confidence
9. Understand that nobody is better than you.
10. Healing emotional, mental and physical wounds, and move into being and expressing your full potential.
11. Destroy hatred and resentment within yourself.
12. Kill negative feelings for women.
13. Kill judgementalism toward others.
14. Kill approach anxiety with women.

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09-22-2017, 11:12 AM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2017 11:38 AM by Daredevil.)
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RE: Social skills 2.0
The above list is Script Additions


Meaning new things - AM5 things that were put into AM6


The list I posted was the new things plus AM5


Edit: But it's True that all of what is on my list is not in AM6, I just can't find the AM5 list.

I do agree there should be a socializing sub, I even made a request for it before, my point is that AM6 in the meantime will take care of Social issues for you.


For me A Good Social Sub Has

1. Glamor
2. Charisma
3. Celebrity Effect
4. Hypnotic Eye Gaze
5. Aura of Comfort and Dominance
6. Good Command of Language
7. Develop a Magnetic and Harmonious voice
8. Have high status vocal tonality
9. Networking and Connecting with other people
10. Small conversation starter, and ability to start conversations with anyone at anytime and anywhere.
11. Become the center of attention everywhere you go.
12. Develop your own Effective Social and Communication style that best suits you and gives you the best results.
13. Make people feel better after you are done talking to them than they were before.
14. Talking Autopilot/Flow State in Speaking
15. Ability to give speeches off the cuff
16. Master Debating Skills
17. Relationship Management
18. Ability to Work with enemies
19. DMSI Sniper on Crowd or Person you are talking to
20. Ability to create a following of you.

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E2 End Date: November 1st 2017

UD Start Date: November 1st 2017
UD End date: July 1st 2019

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09-22-2017, 12:27 PM
Post: #33
RE: Social skills 2.0
These were additions that were added to the existing AM5 script and not AM5 things that were put into AM6. And there is an AM5 list but this one has only tons of suggestions and only 5 of them were allowed to choose from. Other than that AM has a strong inner focus and it made some people anti-social while running it so I don't think it is a good recommendation for socializing (by the way, did you run it? if so, how was socializing?). The only sub close to a socializing sub is WM but its focus in on women (with exceptions of some old 3G like "Socializing is a fun game").

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09-22-2017, 06:57 PM
Post: #34
RE: Social skills 2.0
Daredevil, all you've done is post a list of words without actually going through it and identifying all the things I mentioned. The things which I mentioned (and I'll mentioned them again here) are not included in the AM6 sub.

"These do not include; charm, charisma, emotional intelligence, mastering the ability to build and maintain relationships long term (relationship management), persuasion skills, social intelligence, influence, network building etc etc. These are all the soft skills that a focused social skills sub aims to incorporate."

It says in your profile that you've only run one sub EPRHA 2.0 which is a free to use sub. Perhaps try AM6 for yourself before commenting on what it's results are.
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09-22-2017, 07:05 PM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2017 07:06 PM by Determined.)
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RE: Social skills 2.0
(09-22-2017 11:12 AM)Daredevil Wrote:  For me A Good Social Sub Has

1. Glamor
2. Charisma
3. Celebrity Effect
4. Hypnotic Eye Gaze
5. Aura of Comfort and Dominance
6. Good Command of Language
7. Develop a Magnetic and Harmonious voice
8. Have high status vocal tonality
9. Networking and Connecting with other people
10. Small conversation starter, and ability to start conversations with anyone at anytime and anywhere.
11. Become the center of attention everywhere you go.
12. Develop your own Effective Social and Communication style that best suits you and gives you the best results.
13. Make people feel better after you are done talking to them than they were before.
14. Talking Autopilot/Flow State in Speaking
15. Ability to give speeches off the cuff
16. Master Debating Skills
17. Relationship Management
18. Ability to Work with enemies
19. DMSI Sniper on Crowd or Person you are talking to
20. Ability to create a following of you.

The heart of socialising is connecting with people. The faster and deeper the connections are, the more adept the socialiser. The things I highlighted in bold are counter to that objective. Having a celebrity effect and displaying dominance can be quite intimidating. Being the center of attention everywhere (while a nice idea) can also be counter productive when the context is unsuitable - such as at a funeral or taking a girl out on a date.

The things I underlined are valuable to socialising and would fit well in a social skills sub.
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09-23-2017, 06:43 AM
Post: #36
RE: Social skills 2.0
Quote:Having a celebrity effect and displaying dominance can be quite intimidating

As a celebrity who is pretty well known in my country. I don't see this at all. It's actually quite beneficial because of all the free shit I get and how of easy it is to influence others.

It's actually pretty much impossible for me to not influence others. I've completely botched presentations and still got what I wanted.

Dominance can be countered with an edge of warmth. Look at most successful "Alphas". They are dominant, but they have this warmth to them that tells you they are friendly.

Just ensure they are balanced so you aren't too dominant or too warm.
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09-23-2017, 07:35 AM
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RE: Social skills 2.0
Lol I came here to look at the forum for one last time and I find people who don't read my post. And E2 costs $115 dollars. And I Ran ASC, E1 and E2. And there's a reason I put Aura of Comfort and Dominance, it goes into the principle of tender aggressiveness. Ya boy Elliott hulse has some good info on that.


And I agree with Awesome DMSI

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09-23-2017, 07:51 AM
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RE: Social skills 2.0
(09-23-2017 06:43 AM)awesomeDMSI Wrote:  
Quote:Having a celebrity effect and displaying dominance can be quite intimidating

As a celebrity who is pretty well known in my country. I don't see this at all. It's actually quite beneficial because of all the free shit I get and how of easy it is to influence others.

It's actually pretty much impossible for me to not influence others. I've completely botched presentations and still got what I wanted.

Dominance can be countered with an edge of warmth. Look at most successful "Alphas". They are dominant, but they have this warmth to them that tells you they are friendly.

Just ensure they are balanced so you aren't too dominant or too warm.

Lol, now I'm a little curious as to who you are. Fair point. From the stand point of Shannon building a sub, balance is definitely key. Thank you for adding that in
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09-23-2017, 07:53 AM
Post: #39
RE: Social skills 2.0
(09-23-2017 07:35 AM)Daredevil Wrote:  Lol I came here to look at the forum for one last time and I find people who don't read my post. And E2 costs $115 dollars. And I Ran ASC, E1 and E2. And there's a reason I put Aura of Comfort and Dominance, it goes into the principle of tender aggressiveness. Ya boy Elliott hulse has some good info on that.


And I agree with Awesome DMSI

I've read your post Daredevil, it's just irrelevant to the discussion.
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