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Using DMSI with SM
11-10-2016, 08:49 PM
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Using DMSI with SM
Looks like Shannon has made headway with 3.0 What's the crack with using SM and DMSI together leaving 2 hours between each listening?
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11-10-2016, 10:53 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
Why not just use DMSI? It's far superior to sex magnet if you want sex.
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11-10-2016, 11:18 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
You can't use them together.

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11-11-2016, 03:03 AM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
(11-10-2016 10:53 PM)Ricardo Wrote:  Why not just use DMSI? It's far superior to sex magnet if you want sex.

Disagree, dsmi is superior if you want to be pursued, but I got a lot of sex during my sm runs because it made me want to take lots of action to make it happen. I imagine dsmi would lead to a lot of sex if doing the same, but sm has more of a "push" in that direction.

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11-11-2016, 11:03 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
Why on earth would you even ask about using a 5G/6 stager with a 5.5G? You know the rules. For 5G and up, no mixing programs. One at a time, period.

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11-12-2016, 02:40 AM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
I wanted to switch to DMSI once 3.0 is released however I I am nearing stage 3 of SM. Alpha360 what do you suggest ? Please share your wisdom
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11-12-2016, 03:15 AM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
I would just be patient, finish sm and then do whatever version of dmsi is out by then. I imagine the results of that will be insane, and much better than if you quit sm now to do 3.0.1

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11-12-2016, 08:08 AM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
DMSI could destroy your whole SM run, because it is several times as powerful.

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11-12-2016, 02:40 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
Ricardo show me the memo please ?

(11-10-2016 10:53 PM)Ricardo Wrote:  Why not just use DMSI? It's far superior to sex magnet if you want sex.
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11-12-2016, 02:41 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
I have faith in alpha360 he has used SM in the past.

What if I used the new DMSI just before a date ?
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11-12-2016, 02:44 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
Shannon with all due respect you can't play God. I admire your talents and your a cool guy however why do you use multiple 5.5 g programs on yourself ? and tell others not too.

(11-11-2016 11:03 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Why on earth would you even ask about using a 5G/6 stager with a 5.5G? You know the rules. For 5G and up, no mixing programs. One at a time, period.
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11-14-2016, 06:33 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
(11-12-2016 02:44 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  Shannon with all due respect you can't play God. I admire your talents and your a cool guy however why do you use multiple 5.5 g programs on yourself ? and tell others not too.

(11-11-2016 11:03 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Why on earth would you even ask about using a 5G/6 stager with a 5.5G? You know the rules. For 5G and up, no mixing programs. One at a time, period.

I do, yes. I have no choice. You do.

I use MIR to test, and lose the effects of DMSI. I use DMSI to test and lose the effects of BAMM. I give you the instructions I do because I know that's what is best if you want the results. If you want to be stupid and waste your time, by all means, follow in my footsteps when you don't have to. But don't ask for a refund.

As for SM, I have done it too. And just one loop of DMSI will seriously screw your run of SM. Don't do that. Finish SM, or run DMSI, but don't try to do both. Chaos had to learn the hard way. Hopefully you are going to learn from and emulate those of us who have.

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11-14-2016, 10:30 PM (This post was last modified: 11-14-2016 10:31 PM by CatMan.)
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
Here's some perspective for you...

I ran SM3 for a total of 3,610 hours. Now, at 80 words per second, that works out to 1,039,680,000 words over the 192 day period. Now, I generally did 18.75 hours a day, something most won't come close to, but let's run with those numbers anyway just to show the giant gulf in power and how it's a waste of time to run both.

Now, listening to ONE loop of DMSI V2.5, at the MINIMUM 83,200 words per second and the track being 96 minutes long, works out to MINIMUM 479,232,000 words! Want to do a day's worth of 3 loops? Now we're talking a MINIMUM 1,437,696,000 words for a single day of listening!!!! Keep in mind with P3/P4 technology in there, these are the MINIMUM word numbers possible for the sub, and will likely be far higher.

So...knowing this...is it even remotely worth your time to try to do SM3 alongside DMSI? It gets demolished and blown out so quickly.

I hope this is put to rest now. I'd hate to see anybody waste their time and ruin runs.
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11-14-2016, 10:40 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
With the mentioned maximum of 1,300,000 WPS this would be about 22,400,000,000 words per day. And if you have in mind that P4 is going even beyond...well...

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11-15-2016, 09:54 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
And nevermind that P5 is coming in a few weeks time...::rubs hands together::
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11-16-2016, 02:05 AM (This post was last modified: 11-16-2016 10:24 AM by Alpha360.)
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
(11-12-2016 02:40 AM)thor2014 Wrote:  I wanted to switch to DMSI once 3.0 is released however I I am nearing stage 3 of SM. Alpha360 what do you suggest ? Please share your wisdom

(11-12-2016 02:41 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  I have faith in alpha360 he has used SM in the past.

What if I used the new DMSI just before a date ?

I don't think my wisdom override Shannon recommendation and I already gave you the answer which is don't use them together.

Using DMSI before a date while on SM3 will probably mess things up more than give you good results. Remember that some of us are using DMSI alone and are not getting results so you probably won't either with just a short time from DMSI.

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11-16-2016, 06:55 AM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
(11-15-2016 10:11 PM)yeah! Wrote:  
(11-14-2016 10:30 PM)CatMan Wrote:  Here's some perspective for you...

I ran SM3 for a total of 3,610 hours. Now, at 80 words per second, that works out to 1,039,680,000 words over the 192 day period. Now, I generally did 18.75 hours a day, something most won't come close to, but let's run with those numbers anyway just to show the giant gulf in power and how it's a waste of time to run both.

Now, listening to ONE loop of DMSI V2.5, at the MINIMUM 83,200 words per second and the track being 96 minutes long, works out to MINIMUM 479,232,000 words! Want to do a day's worth of 3 loops? Now we're talking a MINIMUM 1,437,696,000 words for a single day of listening!!!!

Cool

What is the amount on E2?

E2 is good for about 520 words per second compared to 5G's 80 words per second.
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11-17-2016, 02:59 PM
Post: #18
RE: Using DMSI with SM
Did you get women taking an interest in you ?

Did you get IOI s ?


quote='CatMan' pid='142155' dateline='1479191447']
Here's some perspective for you...

I ran SM3 for a total of 3,610 hours. Now, at 80 words per second, that works out to 1,039,680,000 words over the 192 day period. Now, I generally did 18.75 hours a day, something most won't come close to, but let's run with those numbers anyway just to show the giant gulf in power and how it's a waste of time to run both.

Now, listening to ONE loop of DMSI V2.5, at the MINIMUM 83,200 words per second and the track being 96 minutes long, works out to MINIMUM 479,232,000 words! Want to do a day's worth of 3 loops? Now we're talking a MINIMUM 1,437,696,000 words for a single day of listening!!!! Keep in mind with P3/P4 technology in there, these are the MINIMUM word numbers possible for the sub, and will likely be far higher.

So...knowing this...is it even remotely worth your time to try to do SM3 alongside DMSI? It gets demolished and blown out so quickly.

I hope this is put to rest now. I'd hate to see anybody waste their time and ruin runs.
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11-17-2016, 03:00 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
Bro did you get alot of women randomly starting chats with you ?

(11-16-2016 02:05 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  
(11-12-2016 02:40 AM)thor2014 Wrote:  I wanted to switch to DMSI once 3.0 is released however I I am nearing stage 3 of SM. Alpha360 what do you suggest ? Please share your wisdom

(11-12-2016 02:41 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  I have faith in alpha360 he has used SM in the past.

What if I used the new DMSI just before a date ?

I don't think my wisdom override Shannon recommendation and I already gave you the answer which is don't use them together.

Using DMSI before a date while on SM3 will probably mess things up more than give you good results. Remember that some of us are using DMSI alone and are not getting results so you probably won't either with just a short time from DMSI.
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01-05-2017, 08:22 PM
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RE: Using DMSI with SM
(01-05-2017 08:00 PM)Faust Wrote:  OK guys, I need you to talk me away from the ledge.

Long time lurker here. I've done two runs of AM6, and will start the final stage 6 of my first run of SM3 on Saturday. I opted to do SM3 over DMSI to get the solid long term foundation of the 6 stage sub, and have already purchased and planned to start DMSI around mid February after I'm finished with SM3, and give myself a little break.

However due to certain circumstances, which I am sure need little explanation, I am very very tempted to switch to DMSI immediately as I have a short window of time here to overcome some serious resistance on both my part and the part of my target. I don't think it is impossible to close this, but there are some major hurdles to overcome. She might be my only manifestation of SM3, but that is ok. If she is a manifestation of SM3 I think the universe is playing a little joke on me.

I know the right thing is to continue and finish SM3, but man if you guys only knew what I am dealing with here. I never post on forums, but yeah this one has me reaching out for support. You guys are all great by the way.Smile

Finish what you start. Waaay too many people doing this switching and destroying multi-stage sub runs lately.
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