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07-04-2017, 04:20 AM
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
(07-04-2017 03:55 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  *****, don't shame this dude. With all the false rape allegations here in the U.S., I record all my interactions too, at least the audio. I have last week's audio, just didn't post it because it's nothing special.

A few weeks ago, one of my oldest friends had a chick accuser him of rape. She cheated on her boyfriend with him, then tried to save the relationship by claiming she was afraid to say no because he's an accomplished weightlifter. Luckily, my friend listened to me when I said to record all interactions (he originally said it was "creepy" too) and was happy he had her on tape, on all fours screaming how much she loved being "his little *****."

Do whatever the hell you want in your own home. It's your domain. You wanna record, record.

I concur and wished I could double upvote you. On this side of the border there's been a few well publicized cases where scorned women completely and utterly ruined men's lives with false allegations of rape.
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07-04-2017, 05:17 AM (This post was last modified: 07-04-2017 05:18 AM by Nox.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
(07-04-2017 03:55 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  *****, don't shame this dude. With all the false rape allegations here in the U.S., I record all my interactions too, at least the audio. I have last week's audio, just didn't post it because it's nothing special.

A few weeks ago, one of my oldest friends had a chick accuser him of rape. She cheated on her boyfriend with him, then tried to save the relationship by claiming she was afraid to say no because he's an accomplished weightlifter. Luckily, my friend listened to me when I said to record all interactions (he originally said it was "creepy" too) and was happy he had her on tape, on all fours screaming how much she loved being "his little *****."

Do whatever the hell you want in your own home. It's your domain. You wanna record, record.

Always be safe. But there's safe and then there's too much.

I've worked and volunteered with rape victims of both genders for years. Even a simple text after the sexcapade about how you had a great time and her responding in a similar manner shows there was consent given. I've seen that clear a guy on a false rape accusation. I've also seen guys lose everything they've owned from false rape cases.

The audio recording thing is also a good way to prove innocence.

Video taping sexual interactions and enjoying the idea that you'll be doing it more isn't really in the same ballpark, in my opinion.

Obviously do whatever you want in life. Right and wrong are usually just societal programming. My opinions are just opinions.
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07-04-2017, 06:10 AM
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
(07-03-2017 04:20 PM)Benjamin Wrote:  I'm not sure i'd appreciate it if a girl was recording me during sex and i'm sure they would feel the same.

(07-03-2017 04:23 PM)Nox Wrote:  How do I double catman upvote this?

That's some straight creeper nonsense.

Yeah I get it, Nox and Ben. Believe me I do. I know it's an evil thing to do, to film her having sex without consent. But these vids are not for anyone else's eyes but mine. I'm not gonna post them anywhere, I have nothing to gain from that. What she doesn't know won't hurt her. I know that the one harmed is actually me, because I have to live with that and deep down I will see myself subconsciously as someone who did an evil thing. And as I do it more and more it will get easier and easier to do. By doing this I started rolling down a slippery slope towards a path of evil and isolation where I can't feel any caring towards others.

But out of curiosity I decided it was worth it. In my tennis training I always gained a lot from recording a video of myself. I'd become aware of some weird faults in my technique that I would never know if I never saw myself. I always wanted to see how I look when escalating and when having sex. I thought I'd see many kinks in my behavior I would never see otherwise. The self feedback was all I wanted. And I got it. I spotted a few habits that I need to stop and it was clear as hell that I need to work on my voice. Maybe part of why pickup instructors are so good is because they always record themselves. But yeah doing it like this came at a cost, like what I mentioned above.

Day 46 (Day 4 of B)
Met my FWB. It was good to see her. Talking to her felt so much better than talking to G yesterday. Just felt more connected in our wavelengths. That's why I could keep her as a friend all this while. Of course it wasn't as good as when talking with my ex when we were dating, but these days that level of connection is rare to come by. And I'm not looking for something that deep nowadays as I'm still in a confusing time with my life direction.

Anyway, sex was great. Pounded her for 20 minutes straight and loved every minute. Definitely no sexual performance issues. I also recorded today. Today's video was definitely more useful because not only it recorded a longer sex, it also recorded the rest of my interaction with her. Very informative. I am going to stop doing it for a while. I've learned enough for the time being and I don't want to keep rolling down that slope.

Is DMSI making me a super cold person? Or do I just lean that way? We'll see. I need to watch myself.

Today I saw many attractive girls in my neighborhood. I was walking past some of them when I realized that I feel acquisitive when looking at them. Like I want to get something from them. I also noticed a deep buried emotion which feels like spite. I want them but in my mind they reject me and I can't get them. I don't genuinely believe from the bottom of my heart that I deserve the very attractive girls. That's how it is now.

So that's 3 out of 3. It was fun. Last time I would get sick of sex after just 2 days straight of sex, but now I can't wait to go again. Guess something's been cleared.

Flying to UK tomorrow!! Big Grin
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07-04-2017, 06:39 AM
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
Don't call yourself evil man. You gotta live and enjoy your kinks without letting them get the best of you. You're cognisant of it, more so than I guessed at first so my apologies there, but don't think you're doing anything "wrong."

There is no wrong or right. Only effects and reactions. I was a meanie there as I've seen similar "harmless" situations end up in some really nasty places.
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07-04-2017, 08:08 AM (This post was last modified: 07-04-2017 08:08 AM by Duke.Togo.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
I'm with Nox on this one, you don't want to start demonizing yourself. It's a slippery slope, and it only goes down.

The world will cast you as a villain every chance it gets, make sure you realize the distinctions for yourself.

As for the video debate, I had a few women in the past who used to love recording our sessions and then watching it together. Usually I would delete it right after we watched it, because I hated the idea of seeing my mug on some amateur porn site, but the girls loved it.

Maybe try suggesting it to them as something fun to do and watch together afterwards. You might be surprised at how many of them say yes, and at what they are then willing to do during sex also.

My two cents...
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07-04-2017, 05:07 PM (This post was last modified: 07-04-2017 05:09 PM by Benjamin.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
I hate how these days all kinds of shit is rationalized with 'oh don't shame people'. Of course recording that is a very, very mild example of it and there's much worse things that if I go into people will probably get upset.. but mainly alot of the shit you see going on facebook connected to SJWs for example.

I'm not saying you're evil. But even if it was deleted or whatever if I found out a girl filmed me like that i'd have lost all trust for her.
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07-04-2017, 07:22 PM
Post: #27
RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
Yeah ok maybe evil is not the right word. It just doesn't feel right doing it. And I don't want to be someone who can do these things without second thought. Oh wells, it was fun!
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07-05-2017, 02:20 AM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2017 02:22 AM by chaosvrgn.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
The word "creepy" is inherently a shaming word. It's a non-descript word that has no concrete meaning, very nebulous. It's only function is to elicit feelings of shame in the target so they'll change their behavior. Hence why women use it against low value males that exhibit sexual attraction.

Protect yourself. I, for one, will keep recording anything I choose, regardless of how "creepy" it seems. My personal safety is now important than any "morality" involving the modern woman, who has no morality of her own.
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07-05-2017, 02:34 AM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2017 02:37 AM by FREAK4LIFE.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
(07-05-2017 02:20 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  The word "creepy" is inherently a shaming word. It's a non-descript word that has no concrete meaning, very nebulous. It's only function is to elicit feelings of shame in the target so they'll change their behavior. Hence why women use it against low value males that exhibit sexual attraction.

Protect yourself. I, for one, will keep recording anything I choose, regardless of how "creepy" it seems. My personal safety is now important than any "morality" involving the modern woman, who has no morality of her own.



No man you have to "TRUST" the "LADY" to do the "RIGHT THING".

She is after all "THE FAIRER SEX".

How dare you "QUESTION HER"?

Her "MODESTY" "NEEDS" to be "PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS" even at the cost of your "BOZACK"!!

That is what "REAL MEN DO BRUH"!


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07-05-2017, 05:16 AM
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
You guys ever consider the idea that you're stuck in a paradigm that you're vehemently speaking out against?

Just thoughts
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07-05-2017, 05:39 AM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2017 08:22 AM by chaosvrgn.)
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No, we're responding to an established pattern of behavior that's easily observable in western culture and western women. And you're playing into that pattern by subtly suggesting that we're inherently wrong and misguided and should follow a paradigm that clearly wouldn't benefit us as men.
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07-05-2017, 05:52 AM
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I never said that, but thank you for the reply. Was just curious.
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07-20-2017, 03:27 AM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2017 06:04 AM by Raikahoken.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
Hi all!! It's been a long time since my last update! Hope everyone's been doing well. Really glad to see everyone getting better results from DMSI.

The past two weeks I was on holiday in the UK. I was still on 2 loops of B. I had a great time! What they say about solo travel is really true. I heard more and experienced more than if I had someone to travel with. I saw so many things, it will be hard to describe them all! And above them all, I had an amazing time at Wimbledon. That's the main reason I went there in the first place. To see the Maestro Federer on the grass at Center Court was a dream come true!! I was starting to enjoy being with myself more at the end of the two weeks. Next time I will travel longer.

I saw so much beautiful nature in Scotland. I have considered myself more of a city boy but I want to see more nature from now on.

On the women front, it wasn't great unfortunately. The British ladies were certainly not interested in me lol. I was absolutely ghosted in the streets. I think it has to do with the fact that I am Asian and I am not calibrated with the British/European culture. I have the skinny and geeky Asian look. I did have some matches on Tinder and I went out with a girl in Edinburgh, but there was clearly no attraction from her. Most of the conversations with the matches also didn't go anywhere. At least they are more polite than Asian girls. When I come back to Europe I will be back with a better physique, better fashion sense and better vocal projection.

While travelling it finally dawned on me that I really can be anywhere in the world. I had my laptop with me and was running my business fine. This thing works. I don't have to do anything I don't want to do and I can do whatever I want, be wherever I want.

With that realization, I felt something has shifted. I no longer worry as much about what I lack. Now I only want to think about what fun I can have. I want to have as much fun as I can have in my life. How fit can I be? How rich can I become? How creative can I be? How hot can my women be? It's time to find out.

My mental state has also become more resilient overall. I had to camp for two days while queuing for Wimbledon tickets. On the second day, it rained the whole day and night. It was cold and dark and wet in my tent, but I was fine. In fact I saw the positive of the situation, if I can get through this, watching the match tomorrow in the sunshine would feel all the sweeter. The Chinese girl in the tent next to mine was on the phone and crying over the situation. I invited her over to my tent but she wasn't having it lol.

I am now looking at getting back to the gym (haven't gone for 7 months) and doing voice training. The last one is especially important, because while overseas I realize that my stutter is really putting a limit to my success in life. I can mumble in my home country and get by fine, but speaking softly with a stutter really doesn't cut it overseas. I want to squash this for good. I am also looking at learning martial arts. Krav Maga looks good. I will start that once I come back from my Malaysia trip at the end of next month.

It's exciting to see MLS5.5G finally released! Although MLS is really tempting, I will stick with DMSI for now as I still see powerful gains from it. This weekend I would have completed three weeks of B. I'll see how I feel at the end of the week. Maybe I will switch back to A. In the meantime, I'll be reading the MLS journals with excitement Big Grin
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07-21-2017, 09:13 AM
Post: #34
RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
Day 64 (Day 22 of B)
5 loops of B ultrasonic


I have noticed a strange thing on B. These days my IQ seems to have taken a hit. Just this morning I realized that I left my earphones in the plane two days ago. It's a real bummer because it's a custom IEM that cost me almost $2K. The airport lost and found didn't find it. Looks like it's gone forever. I really liked that IEM! Today on the way to seeing my FWB I also miscalculated the travel time badly. I should have left home one hour earlier. Ended up very late. I never made these kinds of mistakes! In London I also got lost multiple times despite using Google Maps. It's really frustrating. I feel like my brain is not focusing on these details anymore, it feels these are not important. Instead it focuses more on my sensory inputs.

On the flipside, I am beginning to feel the autopilot. This autopilot was more pronounced on 5 loops. Met my FWB today. The whole interaction felt very effortless and smooth, almost without conscious thinking. It's quite eerie now that I think about it. She was very turned on once we were alone. She was wearing a naughty lingerie, and I had my way with her in an animalistic way. No performance issues. Afterward she was very lovey dovey.

Frankly I am not liking this loss of cognitive focus. I have always valued intelligence highly so I am bewildered why my subconscious doesn't think it's important to be intelligent and on top of my shit to be sexually irresistible. I am running B until the weekend's up. After that I really think I will switch back to A. Or maybe switch to MLS. I miss being mentally alert and on top of things. I'll take stock of priorities again on Sunday and see.
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07-21-2017, 09:32 AM
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
It's not making you stupid, it's more like your brain is busy working on something so you don't have access to all your brain capacity. I don't like it either, I guess it's the price to pay.

The totally convinced and the totally stupid have too much in common for the resemblance to be accidental.
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07-21-2017, 08:07 PM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2017 08:08 PM by RTBoss.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
It's resistance, and it will fade, eventually. Plus what A360 said. I had this same problem, on multiple versions of DMSI.
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07-22-2017, 12:52 AM (This post was last modified: 07-22-2017 02:57 AM by Dr. Strangelove.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
(07-21-2017 09:13 AM)Raikahoken Wrote:  Day 64 (Day 22 of B)
5 loops of B ultrasonic


I have noticed a strange thing on B. These days my IQ seems to have taken a hit.

Frankly I am not liking this loss of cognitive focus. I have always valued intelligence highly so I am bewildered why my subconscious doesn't think it's important to be intelligent and on top of my shit to be sexually irresistible. I am running B until the weekend's up. After that I really think I will switch back to A. Or maybe switch to MLS. I miss being mentally alert and on top of things.

Same here.

And it's been apparent pretty much throughout the whole run of DMSI. Never more so apparent than when I was working and stayed with young admin girl from my work. I'd say my IQ is about average - enough to take me through engineering uni, but hers is measured at 140. In DMSI scheme of things, the age difference, my experience, ease of interaction with girls, charm and playfulness etc., and DMSI factor, all work in my favour, but sometimes the cognitive ability gap was obvious because she's so sharp, and I feel like I'm brain fogged and not as crisp as usual. And she's the type of girl who's highly stimulated by wits. I could see her reaction when I'd say something clever. It's not nervousness, it really is brain fog. It worked out okay as I journaled, but it would be great if this type of resistance is removed in 3.2.

If in similar situation when outclassed intellectually, do as I and f*ck her stupid, thus meet her halfway.

The fact that I'm proud of this joke, shows how bad this is. Big Grin
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07-22-2017, 07:35 PM
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
I echo what RT and Strangelove said, it's basically resistance you're dealing with. I've had many days of brain fog, and that's mainly due to the fact that the sub is trying to overcome an internal fight within yourself. You have two competing thoughts going against each other.

It will pass. The only thing I can recommend for you to try out is take two days off from the sub a week. That helped me immensely. It gave me time to process the sub and still run the loops. I found that things balanced out for me quite a bit after that.
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07-23-2017, 08:59 AM
Post: #39
RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
(07-22-2017 12:52 AM)Dr. Strangelove Wrote:  If in similar situation when outclassed intellectually, do as I and f*ck her stupid, thus meet her halfway.

LOL


Thanks for all your suggestions! It doesn't feel like resistance though. Maybe it is, but it feels more like my subconscious is disregarding those as unimportant details. Even when I lost my expensive IEM I was like oh well whatever. I'll do what Duke suggested and take a few days off here and there. Actually I won't listen tonight.

But really, the loss of my IEM is a big hassle. Now I can't listen to subs on the road anymore. Which means I can only use ultrasonic when I sleep. Can't sleep with noise. I can always buy new earphones but once you go custom, it's hard to wear anything else... Won't shell out the dough for a new custom pair yet...
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07-23-2017, 09:26 AM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2017 09:43 AM by Raikahoken.)
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RE: The Journey to Freedom: DMSI 3.1
Day 65 (Day 23 of B)
5 loops ultrasonic


This weekend was quite fun overall. On Saturday I went to the jeweler to collect a dog tag that I printed with my company logo. It's a frivolity. But I found that I didn't specify that I wanted it engraved. They printed it instead. It doesn't look nice. Again another braindead mistake, I would have specified it last time. I was so annoyed with myself.

Then I met a friend and watched a movie. I didn't enjoy spending time with him anymore, it becomes more obvious that he's someone with lots of limiting beliefs and lives to avoid pain rather than seek fun.

After that I met the 19 year old girl from 2 weeks ago. I was still annoyed from the dog tag and from my friend, so I wasn't in the best mood. I just stuck to the game plan and executed it to get into her pants again. Chill conversation over coffee. I wasn't in the mood to talk honestly. I casually mentioned let's go to the hotel we went last week, she was like ok. It's surprising to see how low this girl's ASD is. So we went there. No resistance at all. She was very horny. I was quite lazy to escalate but she helped me along. I lasted not very long but longer than the last time with her. Afterward she asked me about my experiences. She herself only had only been sexual with one guy and one girl. No emotional clinginess, I feel a FWB vibe from her. Well that's all I want from her anyway. Let's call her M1 now.

Watched a dance show at night. I had a good talk with my mates. One friend drove me home.

A girl on Tinder messaged me first. It's rare a girl messaged me first. She's hot too. I replied slow and she would reply very fast. Maybe just an attention ho. We'll see.

Day 66 (Day 24 of B)
5 loops ultrasonic


Today was just a day full of dance classes and rehearsals. 7 hours of dance in total. Really exhausting. The instructor of the afternoon class was really cute. She touched me a few times to correct me and we held nice eye contact a few times.

Another hot girl flirted with me on Bumble. Quite a rare thing for me. She's a pole dancer and agreed to show me some pole dancing. In the past I would have gone after setting up the logistics more aggressively but I was too lazy. Resistance? Anyhow, it's nice to have hot girls showing interest finally.

M1 asked me out for movie and drinks. As I was noting her down in my spreadsheet, I realized she's the worst among all the girls that have been my FWB and above. She just barely passes my standard. I resolve not to taint my hall of fame again!

I thought long and hard of what I want in life right now. It seems to me that DMSI is bringing out a more primitive part of me. My conscious thought has less control now and my instincts are amplified. I think it is a good thing for now. I haven't been in touch with my instincts and I don't really know what I am really interested in. What I want from DMSI is a knowledge of what I am really interested in deep down. Once I have a clearer idea, I will move on to MLS. Right now I feel that if I move to MLS it will be like stepping on the gas without a clear direction. So it's DMSI for now. I'll give version B at least one more week.
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