Post Reply 
Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
01-13-2018, 08:30 AM (This post was last modified: 01-13-2018 01:11 PM by rayrocanaldo.)
Post: #7861
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Edit.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-13-2018, 08:49 AM
Post: #7862
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-13-2018 07:11 AM)Chopp Wrote:  I sometimes get the trouble speaking thing, too. I’ve had it happen on AM 6 the most but also a few times on various versions of DMSI. It’s like I can’t form a sentence correctly or sometime it will slur like I’m drunk or something. Funny this is just now being brought up. I figured it was a common side effect.

Yeah for me it’s like it’s a little bit more difficult than normal to keep a conversation going and occasionally I get tongue tied, basically a good 40% of the time I’ve been on AM6. Also, as soon as I hit 10 hours or more within a listening day, my energy sharply drops for about 30 minutes until it readjusts to the mental demands being placed on it
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes DavisMind91's post:
Superman
01-13-2018, 10:40 AM (This post was last modified: 01-13-2018 11:50 AM by Superman.)
Post: #7863
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-13-2018 08:49 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 07:11 AM)Chopp Wrote:  I sometimes get the trouble speaking thing, too. I’ve had it happen on AM 6 the most but also a few times on various versions of DMSI. It’s like I can’t form a sentence correctly or sometime it will slur like I’m drunk or something. Funny this is just now being brought up. I figured it was a common side effect.

Yeah for me it’s like it’s a little bit more difficult than normal to keep a conversation going and occasionally I get tongue tied, basically a good 40% of the time I’ve been on AM6. Also, as soon as I hit 10 hours or more within a listening day, my energy sharply drops for about 30 minutes until it readjusts to the mental demands being placed on it

I agree. Am6 put my mind in a sluggish mode but DMSI and even the bloom effect just brings me to the point where I'm not even coherent sometimes. Sometimes I feel like I've developed a speech impediment or my words slur together or stammer. The brain fog and mental tiredness is so pronounced that I've even looked into adult onset autism/dyslexia.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-13-2018, 11:08 AM
Post: #7864
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Guys who are having issues with 5.5G tech. Do you listen at night or during the day? I think there's a certain degree of sleep deprivation when we listen to these subs at night. I've used DSMI for a bit now and I notice I drop words out of sentences when writing, have trouble planning, and find myself having a hard time following conversations. But I don't think it's directly the effect of 5.5G. I think my quality of sleep has just gone downhill.

INFP
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes mat422's post:
findingme
01-13-2018, 11:18 AM
Post: #7865
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
I haven't had any of these side effects other than on the first day of Running the Subliminal.

E2 Days in All: 606 Days

UD Start Date: November 1st, 2017

INTJ 4w5
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-13-2018, 11:37 AM (This post was last modified: 01-13-2018 11:38 AM by AbundanceCH.)
Post: #7866
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-13-2018 11:08 AM)mat422 Wrote:  Guys who are having issues with 5.5G tech. Do you listen at night or during the day? I think there's a certain degree of sleep deprivation when we listen to these subs at night. I've used DSMI for a bit now and I notice I drop words out of sentences when writing, have trouble planning, and find myself having a hard time following conversations. But I don't think it's directly the effect of 5.5G. I think my quality of sleep has just gone downhill.
I had those same issues and that was on running BASE 5g!

Which to me is a testament to Shannon and his work the subs are making your brain work or else you wouldn't be tired at all. It comes with the territory of running subs. Do your best to adapt whether it be eating healthier to have more energy plus exercising more or drinking tea or coffee etc.

ASC -- LTU -- BASE 2.1
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes AbundanceCH's post:
findingme
01-13-2018, 04:13 PM
Post: #7867
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
I went to purchase PTPA but it seems it isn't available yet? Looks like Shannon started the uploads yesterday. Did he say when it would be available or did I miss it? Thanks

AM6/ SM3/ DMSI 3.01A/ MHS/ 3.1A/B/PTPA 5.5

ENTJ
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-13-2018, 05:55 PM
Post: #7868
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
It's not yet available. I'm making the page now, and Shannon will have to do the description and then release. It will be announced when it's out.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Benjamin's post:
JakeKennedy
01-13-2018, 08:56 PM
Post: #7869
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-13-2018 11:37 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 11:08 AM)mat422 Wrote:  Guys who are having issues with 5.5G tech. Do you listen at night or during the day? I think there's a certain degree of sleep deprivation when we listen to these subs at night. I've used DSMI for a bit now and I notice I drop words out of sentences when writing, have trouble planning, and find myself having a hard time following conversations. But I don't think it's directly the effect of 5.5G. I think my quality of sleep has just gone downhill.
I had those same issues and that was on running BASE 5g!

Which to me is a testament to Shannon and his work the subs are making your brain work or else you wouldn't be tired at all. It comes with the territory of running subs. Do your best to adapt whether it be eating healthier to have more energy plus exercising more or drinking tea or coffee etc.

It's too impeding. How are you going to execute a program but can't communicate in an unintelligible way? So much so you end up coming off weird af. I did try the diet thing,all vitamins and even choline. Still had it happen. sleeping more didn't help either.

Rest at ease Chester Bennington
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-14-2018, 09:04 AM
Post: #7870
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Hey Shannon

I hope you are doing well. I actually had some more questions though I hope I'm not distracting you too much with them. I mostly had to ask them due to some of the TID experiences I've been having and some of them are pretty deep. I bring this up because something Sarge said in another thread made me think about this:

"Getting the girls the user wants to be that way for the user is the whole point of DMSI"

Is this something that is dealt with directly in DMSI or indirectly? Obviously, we are already trying to get women to act in ways they usually aren't by trying to make them the primary aggressors for sex with the guy but this affect extend to other areas? I ask this because when this TID happens (which is quite frequently now) I notice a big change in my thinking patterns. These thoughts haven't been just confidence that I can get any woman I desire but the fact that I can get them to act more submissive towards me (sub-missives are some sort of turn on for me). Mainly if I had to give an example it would be like the solid 10 women who a whole bunch of guys want to bang and so they all become beta orbiters who throw resources at her, police themselves around her to not offend her, and are always try to spend time with her for even just the slight chance that she will reward them with sex. Can and do women act like this under the right circumstances if they think a man is high value enough, rare enough, and they therefore become desperate enough? I thought I would ask you since you have experience with having multiple girlfriends at the same time.

Obviously, If this is really TID I am experiencing then its my subconscious telling me this is very possible and its very likely to happen. Like its trying to get rid of my former limiting thinking about what is possible with women. This does make me want to ask though would this happen because 3.2 is manifesting women who naturally act like that when confronted with a very high value male (Granted these are women are already know)? Is the reality bending pulling the user into a reality in which the women start acting like this even though normally they wouldn't? Or maybe a bit of both manifestation and reality bending? Could max reality bending cause the women you attract to start acting in ways equivalent to their beta male orbiter counterparts? Or is this just a natural consequence of someone seeing someone else as a very, very good catch and therefore desperation sets in to get their attention so they behavior like that?

I will admit I find this interesting because this is the first time with a version of DMSI that TID has actually started affecting my thinking patterns about certain things. Before I would only get physical sensations (heat, cold, energy in chakra locations,etc) before a DMSI release. As a side note, I've cut down on porn usage and find it very uninteresting and fake for the most part as well lately.

[Image: 13998003579042.png]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes DarthXedonias's post:
Kol
01-14-2018, 11:45 AM
Post: #7871
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-13-2018 07:11 AM)Chopp Wrote:  I sometimes get the trouble speaking thing, too. I’ve had it happen on AM 6 the most but also a few times on various versions of DMSI. It’s like I can’t form a sentence correctly or sometime it will slur like I’m drunk or something. Funny this is just now being brought up. I figured it was a common side effect.

Yes I can occur the vegetable state happened to me too when too much loop or even simply when I was tired.

"There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear."
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-14-2018, 03:51 PM
Post: #7872
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-13-2018 08:56 PM)Darkness Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 11:37 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 11:08 AM)mat422 Wrote:  Guys who are having issues with 5.5G tech. Do you listen at night or during the day? I think there's a certain degree of sleep deprivation when we listen to these subs at night. I've used DSMI for a bit now and I notice I drop words out of sentences when writing, have trouble planning, and find myself having a hard time following conversations. But I don't think it's directly the effect of 5.5G. I think my quality of sleep has just gone downhill.
I had those same issues and that was on running BASE 5g!

Which to me is a testament to Shannon and his work the subs are making your brain work or else you wouldn't be tired at all. It comes with the territory of running subs. Do your best to adapt whether it be eating healthier to have more energy plus exercising more or drinking tea or coffee etc.

It's too impeding. How are you going to execute a program but can't communicate in an unintelligible way? So much so you end up coming off weird af. I did try the diet thing,all vitamins and even choline. Still had it happen. sleeping more didn't help either.

What are your usage patterns? I'm presuming you tried reducing the number of loops per day? How long after starting the program did you note this effect? And we are talking about DMSI 3.1, correct?

Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-14-2018, 03:52 PM
Post: #7873
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Positive Thinking, Positive Attitude is now available! Get your copy here:

http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/p...tude-5-5g/

Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-14-2018, 04:04 PM (This post was last modified: 01-14-2018 04:15 PM by CatMan.)
Post: #7874
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Hi Shannon, congrats on PTPA's release. Clear path now for V3.2, that's fantastic!

I'll repost this to add weight to the discussion:

(01-14-2018 03:51 PM)Shannon Wrote:  What are your usage patterns? I'm presuming you tried reducing the number of loops per day? How long after starting the program did you note this effect? And we are talking about DMSI 3.1, correct?

I know that was meant for Darkness, but since I've spoken of this issue too I will answer those too. 2 loops per day of hybrid headphones, always Version B except for the one week experiment ran that you asked for. Always hybrid, nothing else. Listened during the day, never the night, as headphones aren't reliably able to stay on during the night for me. Reduced loops back to 2 loops from the amount you gave me to try awhile back, due to these circumstances being far more intense on a level V3.0.1 was for me. Completely unsustainable for me to function in my duties running a company. It's like having my drive, energy and brains sucked out, tough to describe. It's been pretty much throughout since release. And V3.1 is the program spoken of.

(01-12-2018 01:20 PM)CatMan Wrote:  I can confirm similar issues.

I had terrible exhaustion and a constant inability to focus or concentrate often on V3.0.1. The exhaustion was almost totally gone on V3.1 except for intermittent cases. But the general constant inability to focus or concentrate often was a common theme, annoyingly. Not being able to concentrate or focus on doing tasks as well as normal (ie. not on subs), and just sitting and vegging not really doing too much of relevance often. I would often have to force myself hard just to do normal things, weirdly. Maybe the EM-influenced additions will be able to get us to do what we don't want to do better. Or it could be an issue of too much input at a time causing what you called "exhaustion failure". Perhaps requiring secondary ASRBs like you postulated. Maybe all combined.

In fact, that's one of the things I'm looking forward to with my sub break now that PTPA has been released at last. Being able to get back all that mental horsepower and energy again! It's going to be great!

Really looking forward to V3.2. Sounds like it may be a step forward.

It's possible this could also be "lethargy resistance", or "homeostatis resistance" from this thread, and that addressing that could help: http://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Freque...1#pid69821 (relevant info a bit further down in that section, fantastic read regardless that I often refer to)

Hope it helps, Shannon! Thank you for the continuing work on things. V3.2 should be interesting with all the time in between releases to test tech to advance things, and with all the additions and tweaks.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes CatMan's post:
Darkness
01-14-2018, 05:10 PM (This post was last modified: 01-14-2018 05:11 PM by dweller94.)
Post: #7875
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Damn, I thought it was just me, my speech is awful on AM6 and 5G subs apart from 4G, I can’t speak without staggering, in addition to that my brain feels sluggish like the above users reported. I thought this was just happening to me but I get better when I quit subs, I’ve not ran anything for a week or two now and I’m fine, so I can confirm this is happening for me as well.

Meh https://youtu.be/Q5pggDCnt5M
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like dweller94's post:
Darkness, Rocket13
01-14-2018, 07:35 PM (This post was last modified: 01-14-2018 07:41 PM by Darkness.)
Post: #7876
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-14-2018 03:51 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 08:56 PM)Darkness Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 11:37 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 11:08 AM)mat422 Wrote:  Guys who are having issues with 5.5G tech. Do you listen at night or during the day? I think there's a certain degree of sleep deprivation when we listen to these subs at night. I've used DSMI for a bit now and I notice I drop words out of sentences when writing, have trouble planning, and find myself having a hard time following conversations. But I don't think it's directly the effect of 5.5G. I think my quality of sleep has just gone downhill.
I had those same issues and that was on running BASE 5g!

Which to me is a testament to Shannon and his work the subs are making your brain work or else you wouldn't be tired at all. It comes with the territory of running subs. Do your best to adapt whether it be eating healthier to have more energy plus exercising more or drinking tea or coffee etc.

It's too impeding. How are you going to execute a program but can't communicate in an unintelligible way? So much so you end up coming off weird af. I did try the diet thing,all vitamins and even choline. Still had it happen. sleeping more didn't help either.

What are your usage patterns? I'm presuming you tried reducing the number of loops per day? How long after starting the program did you note this effect? And we are talking about DMSI 3.1, correct?

The programs that it happens on: AM6 being the hardest to think and form sensical speech ( the usage is to the directions, the mental function and speech disruption starts for me the second week of stage 1 and it continues despite lowering the hours till I come off it) people just couldn't understand me, what I had in mind and what my mouth formulated became jumbled.

SM 3 it happened but it was manageable.

On EPRHA I had to go down to a loop less then directed. A week into use.

On Universal Detox I followed the directions and then I lowered by 2 loops less, unfortunately I had to stop it all together because it took my mental function and verbal coherence down. It was cumulative from the 3rd day on.

On DMSI same pattern, did as prescribed then lower than. 3.1 yes. About week in. And hybrid really made more pronounced, even though it still occurred on the other formats also.

Rest at ease Chester Bennington
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Darkness's post:
Daredevil
01-14-2018, 07:59 PM (This post was last modified: 01-14-2018 08:00 PM by SargeMaximus.)
Post: #7877
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
I'm having the same thing on DMSI. I'm slurring all the time I feel like a slob. But it doesn't seem to affect my communication at all. As in, people still seem to understand me.

"We are incapable of designing and building a mosquito, let alone all the species and most of the other things in the universe. So I start from the premise that nature is smarter than I am and try to let nature teach me how reality works." - Ray Dalio
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-15-2018, 07:32 AM
Post: #7878
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-14-2018 09:04 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote:  Hey Shannon

I hope you are doing well. I actually had some more questions though I hope I'm not distracting you too much with them. I mostly had to ask them due to some of the TID experiences I've been having and some of them are pretty deep. I bring this up because something Sarge said in another thread made me think about this:

"Getting the girls the user wants to be that way for the user is the whole point of DMSI"

Is this something that is dealt with directly in DMSI or indirectly? Obviously, we are already trying to get women to act in ways they usually aren't by trying to make them the primary aggressors for sex with the guy but this affect extend to other areas? I ask this because when this TID happens (which is quite frequently now) I notice a big change in my thinking patterns. These thoughts haven't been just confidence that I can get any woman I desire but the fact that I can get them to act more submissive towards me (sub-missives are some sort of turn on for me). Mainly if I had to give an example it would be like the solid 10 women who a whole bunch of guys want to bang and so they all become beta orbiters who throw resources at her, police themselves around her to not offend her, and are always try to spend time with her for even just the slight chance that she will reward them with sex. Can and do women act like this under the right circumstances if they think a man is high value enough, rare enough, and they therefore become desperate enough? I thought I would ask you since you have experience with having multiple girlfriends at the same time.

DMSI is designed to cause the affected (who are sufficiently affected) to be so sexually attracted to the user that they can, will and do, do whatever is required to achieve the goal of having sex with the user, as frequently as possible. I can tell you that yes, even so-called 10s will act this way if the man is perceived to be of high enough value. Everybody has something that they're willing to do anything to get.

Quote:Obviously, If this is really TID I am experiencing then its my subconscious telling me this is very possible and its very likely to happen. Like its trying to get rid of my former limiting thinking about what is possible with women. This does make me want to ask though would this happen because 3.2 is manifesting women who naturally act like that when confronted with a very high value male (Granted these are women are already know)?


I haven't finished 3.2 yet so I don't know what it would be manifesting, because I start working on it today.

Quote:Is the reality bending pulling the user into a reality in which the women start acting like this even though normally they wouldn't?

It is possible.

Quote: Or maybe a bit of both manifestation and reality bending?


Possible.

Quote:Could max reality bending cause the women you attract to start acting in ways equivalent to their beta male orbiter counterparts?

Yes.

Quote:Or is this just a natural consequence of someone seeing someone else as a very, very good catch and therefore desperation sets in to get their attention so they behavior like that?

Could be.

Quote:I will admit I find this interesting because this is the first time with a version of DMSI that TID has actually started affecting my thinking patterns about certain things. Before I would only get physical sensations (heat, cold, energy in chakra locations,etc) before a DMSI release. As a side note, I've cut down on porn usage and find it very uninteresting and fake for the most part as well lately.

I wish there was more I could tell you specifically, but as I have yet to work on, nevermind finish, 3.2, I don't know much about it yet, except that the list of additions and adjustments is so long it would be another year to put them all in if I tried to do all of them before releasing 3.2, so you know there will be a 3.3 and probably a 3.4 based on that alone.

Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Shannon's post:
Daredevil, stefioan
01-15-2018, 08:23 AM
Post: #7879
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
Actually, thanks Shannon for your answer. Your first and 5th answer told me exactly what I mostly needed to know. There is one last follow up question I have though that I know you can answer. I know you said after 3.2 you will fully concentrate on finishing development of beast then extract all the 6G tech. Since there will be more additions for DMSI will you be periodically making upgrades to finish up adding those editions or will you be focus only on developing 6G and then 3.3 and 3.4 will be both 6G just with the last of the additions added? Thanks for your time.

[Image: 13998003579042.png]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-15-2018, 09:55 AM
Post: #7880
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 2
(01-15-2018 08:23 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote:  Actually, thanks Shannon for your answer. Your first and 5th answer told me exactly what I mostly needed to know. There is one last follow up question I have though that I know you can answer. I know you said after 3.2 you will fully concentrate on finishing development of beast then extract all the 6G tech. Since there will be more additions for DMSI will you be periodically making upgrades to finish up adding those editions or will you be focus only on developing 6G and then 3.3 and 3.4 will be both 6G just with the last of the additions added? Thanks for your time.

As you may have noted, I am constantly adjusting my plans according to new information or circumstances, so it is my goal to focus on finishing Beast. However, as usual, the goal may not always end up with the highest priority because other things may force it off stage temporarily. My time is constantly overloaded since 5.5G development started, and I am sure it will get worse before it gets better as my skills and abilities improve.

DMSI is the current focus for advancement of 6G skeleton script, and during the cycle I have been going through, I've been forced at times to not work at all, and other times to find creative indirect ways to be productive. The cycle is largely over, and I am currently focused on DMSI 3.2, but of course I also have other responsibilities at the same time, including advancing Beast, experimentation, and other things as well.

The goal is and always has been that 3.4 would be the final development before 6G is finished/released. DMSI is how I am planning to step us up to 6G and test the technology as harshly as I possibly can before it is released, so that 6G and the 6G skeleton script are as powerful, capable and effective as I can make them. Then I will start focusing on building out my offerings in 6G.

But 3.2, 3.3 and 3.4 are steps on the ladder to that point, and will come before 6G final. 3.4 may or may not "be 6G", but if it is not, it will be damned close.

Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Shannon's post:
THolt
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
Music Strumming my Brain with MLS 3.0 Journal Ampersnd 249 15,105 Yesterday 04:49 PM
Last Post: Ampersnd
  DMSI 3.1 A journal almond milk 2 241 Yesterday 11:19 AM
Last Post: almond milk
  Self Esteem 5.5 Journal Trespassing 1 227 Yesterday 10:45 AM
Last Post: Trespassing
  Shannon's Journal, Volume 2 Shannon 3,329 977,949 01-14-2018 03:48 PM
Last Post: Shannon
  Raykon's Self Esteem 5.5g Journal Raykon 55 3,874 01-13-2018 01:10 PM
Last Post: Raykon
  DMSI V3.1 Journal Travis 19 1,662 01-12-2018 10:13 PM
Last Post: Travis

Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread:
Kol, stefioan, 6 Guest(s)

Return to TopReturn to Content