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12-07-2016, 03:51 AM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
Quote:You know you're running it too loud if you start getting headaches or nausea from a track with ultrasonic in it. This is not necessarily going to mean it;s too loud, though. You could also be getting a headache from resisting something that you are trying to heal and clear, which sounds more likely to me in this case.

Hmm interesting, would the headache only be when listening to it? I've bumped up my hours of listening on E2 and most of today I had a headache, through the day I only listen to ocean surf, but I also turned up the volume of ultrasonic at night. I'm guessing for me it's either the increased input or resisting something it's trying to heal.
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12-07-2016, 04:01 AM
Post: #9722
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 03:51 AM)Benjamin Wrote:  
Quote:You know you're running it too loud if you start getting headaches or nausea from a track with ultrasonic in it. This is not necessarily going to mean it;s too loud, though. You could also be getting a headache from resisting something that you are trying to heal and clear, which sounds more likely to me in this case.

Hmm interesting, would the headache only be when listening to it? I've bumped up my hours of listening on E2 and most of today I had a headache, through the day I only listen to ocean surf, but I also turned up the volume of ultrasonic at night. I'm guessing for me it's either the increased input or resisting something it's trying to heal.

The headaches caused by ultrasonic at a volume that is too high dissipate in 5 to 7 minutes when the audio is stopped. That has to be something else.

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12-07-2016, 04:06 AM
Post: #9723
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-06-2016 02:49 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 02:46 PM)Travis Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 01:28 PM)eternitys_child Wrote:  this leads me to think the clearing in 3.0.1a has something in it to prevent re-dosing of ANY type of thing that makes us feel "good" in a "feeling seeking" type of way. thereby also preventing seeking the euphoria of the program. for someone who has an insanely addictive personality, i don't find myself wanting to re-dose on the sub any more or any less than the prescribed amount of 3 loops.

I haven't looked at porn since v3.0.1. The desire to look at it has gone away.

If I quit because of v3.0.1a that would be an amazing side effect.

Did you ever consider that maybe porn was getting in the way of you getting to real sex with a real woman? Whether directly so or as a side effect, if porn is preventing you from achieving the goals of DMSI "A" version, it will kill your interest in porn. Dead.

Shannon , does version A and B have diferent goals?
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12-07-2016, 04:24 AM
Post: #9724
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 04:06 AM)bogdy Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 02:49 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 02:46 PM)Travis Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 01:28 PM)eternitys_child Wrote:  this leads me to think the clearing in 3.0.1a has something in it to prevent re-dosing of ANY type of thing that makes us feel "good" in a "feeling seeking" type of way. thereby also preventing seeking the euphoria of the program. for someone who has an insanely addictive personality, i don't find myself wanting to re-dose on the sub any more or any less than the prescribed amount of 3 loops.

I haven't looked at porn since v3.0.1. The desire to look at it has gone away.

If I quit because of v3.0.1a that would be an amazing side effect.

Did you ever consider that maybe porn was getting in the way of you getting to real sex with a real woman? Whether directly so or as a side effect, if porn is preventing you from achieving the goals of DMSI "A" version, it will kill your interest in porn. Dead.

Shannon , does version A and B have diferent goals?

Yes.

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12-07-2016, 04:31 AM
Post: #9725
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 03:51 AM)Benjamin Wrote:  
Quote:You know you're running it too loud if you start getting headaches or nausea from a track with ultrasonic in it. This is not necessarily going to mean it;s too loud, though. You could also be getting a headache from resisting something that you are trying to heal and clear, which sounds more likely to me in this case.

Hmm interesting, would the headache only be when listening to it? I've bumped up my hours of listening on E2 and most of today I had a headache, through the day I only listen to ocean surf, but I also turned up the volume of ultrasonic at night. I'm guessing for me it's either the increased input or resisting something it's trying to heal.

That's the thing it's more of a head pressure headache (not painful, just an intense pressure feeling) and it I had it when the US finished. But, like I said, I fell back asleep and woke up fine so maybe it is a resistance thing.

Thanks Shannon, I'll trust in the sub to guide me to the volume.
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12-07-2016, 05:02 AM
Post: #9726
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
I am having some difficulties in deciding whether to use SM or DMSI here in a few months to help with some sexual healing (got the feelin???) and balancing.

I'm hesitant about using DMSI due to the energy flooding, as I'm sure that rule 4 breaking kundalini issues aren't covered in the return policy. Quick breakdown of my questions.

How much healing is contained in SM vs DMSI? Will it still help a person overcome the issues, maybe just not as well as DMSI?

How driven is an individual to have sex on DMSI? SM contains opt outs for stds, manipulation, not interested, etc. are these all contained in DMSI also?

Is SM primarily an internal reworking whereas DMSI is more a mix between internal and external?

Is DMSI basically the continuation and replacement for SM? Or will that be reworked later on? This question is just curiosity.

I'm more interested in the healing and reworking portion of DMSI than actually getting laid. My concern is the energy flooding. I haven't experienced it and so cannot say how well it'd work for me, especially since self-directed outcomes and energies don't necessarily coincide with kundalini.

Thank you any answers and Input. Smile
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12-07-2016, 05:21 AM (This post was last modified: 12-07-2016 05:22 AM by bogdy.)
Post: #9727
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 04:24 AM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 04:06 AM)bogdy Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 02:49 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 02:46 PM)Travis Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 01:28 PM)eternitys_child Wrote:  this leads me to think the clearing in 3.0.1a has something in it to prevent re-dosing of ANY type of thing that makes us feel "good" in a "feeling seeking" type of way. thereby also preventing seeking the euphoria of the program. for someone who has an insanely addictive personality, i don't find myself wanting to re-dose on the sub any more or any less than the prescribed amount of 3 loops.

I haven't looked at porn since v3.0.1. The desire to look at it has gone away.

If I quit because of v3.0.1a that would be an amazing side effect.
Did you ever consider that maybe porn was getting in the way of you getting to real sex with a real woman? Whether directly so or as a side effect, if porn is preventing you from achieving the goals of DMSI "A" version, it will kill your interest in porn. Dead.

Shannon , does version A and B have diferent goals?

Yes.

You gave me 1 word answer that means you already posted the goals somewhere else,right? Smile
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12-07-2016, 05:30 AM (This post was last modified: 12-07-2016 05:30 AM by Shannon.)
Post: #9728
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 05:21 AM)bogdy Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 04:24 AM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 04:06 AM)bogdy Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 02:49 PM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-06-2016 02:46 PM)Travis Wrote:  I haven't looked at porn since v3.0.1. The desire to look at it has gone away.

If I quit because of v3.0.1a that would be an amazing side effect.
Did you ever consider that maybe porn was getting in the way of you getting to real sex with a real woman? Whether directly so or as a side effect, if porn is preventing you from achieving the goals of DMSI "A" version, it will kill your interest in porn. Dead.

Shannon , does version A and B have diferent goals?

Yes.

You gave me 1 word answer that means you already posted the goals somewhere else,right? Smile

Many times, in many places. Including the product description itself.

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12-07-2016, 05:36 AM
Post: #9729
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 05:02 AM)Nox Wrote:  I am having some difficulties in deciding whether to use SM or DMSI here in a few months to help with some sexual healing (got the feelin???) and balancing.

I'm hesitant about using DMSI due to the energy flooding, as I'm sure that rule 4 breaking kundalini issues aren't covered in the return policy. Quick breakdown of my questions.

How much healing is contained in SM vs DMSI? Will it still help a person overcome the issues, maybe just not as well as DMSI?

SM has vastly less clearing and healing than DMSI in effect due to the level of difference in power, technology and sophistication between them.

Quote:How driven is an individual to have sex on DMSI? SM contains opt outs for stds, manipulation, not interested, etc. are these all contained in DMSI also?

The individual is not driven to have sex on DMSI. They are free to have sex or not, at their pleasure. They will engage in Natural Seduction activities, however, which tends to favor sex, as does the level of interest and arousal you cause with DMSI affecting your aura. But driven? No. That's SM.

DMSI 3.1 and later will have STD prevention scripting, but 3.0.1 does not. You will have to use the big head a little bit and put on a condom. I know it's hard, but I have faith in you. Wink

Quote:Is SM primarily an internal reworking whereas DMSI is more a mix between internal and external?

Both are a mix between internal and external, but in different ways and to different degrees. SM is more favoring internal, and DMSI is more well balanced between the two.

Quote:Is DMSI basically the continuation and replacement for SM? Or will that be reworked later on? This question is just curiosity.

No. SM is an extension of and reworking of the results of AM, and DMSI does not seek to make you alpha or keep you alpha. It seeks to make you sexually irresistible regardless of where you start from, but of course this limits you to some degree compared to SM.

Quote:I'm more interested in the healing and reworking portion of DMSI than actually getting laid. My concern is the energy flooding. I haven't experienced it and so cannot say how well it'd work for me, especially since self-directed outcomes and energies don't necessarily coincide with kundalini.

Thank you any answers and Input. Smile

You might be surprised at what the subconscious is capable of.

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12-07-2016, 05:44 AM
Post: #9730
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
Thank you for your time and answers Shannon.

I do not disagree with you on what the subconscious is capable of, and I have nothing but respect for your ability to develop technologies that work with it. I simply have a slightly different viewpoint is all. Either way there's a reason I only use your stuff over all of the garbage out there. Smile

Have a great day and thank you again.
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12-07-2016, 06:07 AM
Post: #9731
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 05:44 AM)Nox Wrote:  Thank you for your time and answers Shannon.

I do not disagree with you on what the subconscious is capable of, and I have nothing but respect for your ability to develop technologies that work with it. I simply have a slightly different viewpoint is all. Either way there's a reason I only use your stuff over all of the garbage out there. Smile

Have a great day and thank you again.

I have not studied kundalini specifically. Otherwise I would be more specific. But I do know that the scripting is worded with many safeties in place.

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12-07-2016, 07:53 AM
Post: #9732
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 06:07 AM)Shannon Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 05:44 AM)Nox Wrote:  Thank you for your time and answers Shannon.

I do not disagree with you on what the subconscious is capable of, and I have nothing but respect for your ability to develop technologies that work with it. I simply have a slightly different viewpoint is all. Either way there's a reason I only use your stuff over all of the garbage out there. Smile

Have a great day and thank you again.

I have not studied kundalini specifically. Otherwise I would be more specific. But I do know that the scripting is worded with many safeties in place.

I know you do your best to make everything as safe and effective as possible. It's one of the reasons I continue to buy your products. I have nothing but gratitude for the work you do. Just E2 has made a massive change in a few people I care about a lot.

If I came across as demanding or superior I apologize. It wasnt even close to my intent. In all fairness kundalini most likely won't be an issue with the work you've done to make it safe. If you say it's safe then I trust that. Its just that I have to be a bit more paranoid than I'd like to be.

Thank you again and i appreciate your responses.
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12-07-2016, 08:56 AM
Post: #9733
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
I take no offense, and you didn't come across in any negative way.

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12-07-2016, 10:43 AM
Post: #9734
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Now I think I know what people are talking about when they say there is a beep in the track. First, I don't think there is a real beep in the track, because I heard in in the third loop, but definitely not at the first one. This seem to be some kind of thing that happens when you process the sub information. Even if it may not happen for everyone. Have had something similar on some 5G titles but not that intense. Don't remember having this with 4G or 3G. Anyway, looks like that tone gets created in your head.

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12-07-2016, 11:43 AM
Post: #9735
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(12-07-2016 10:43 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  Now I think I know what people are talking about when they say there is a beep in the track. First, I don't think there is a real beep in the track, because I heard in in the third loop, but definitely not at the first one. This seem to be some kind of thing that happens when you process the sub information. Even if it may not happen for everyone. Have had something similar on some 5G titles but not that intense. Don't remember having this with 4G or 3G. Anyway, looks like that tone gets created in your head.

Could be something simpler than in-your-head. like the software player reaction to an encoding choice. For example, my player usually sees 1-2 frame issues per audio file (whether mp3 or flac), depending on the file:

Playing DMSI_V3_0_1_A_Hybrid_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf_Ultrasonic).flac.
Audio only file format detected.
Load subtitles in ./
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 1014.3 kbit/71.88% (ratio: 126789->176400)
Selected audio codec: [ffflac] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg FLAC audio)
==========================================================================
AO: [oss] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Video: no video
Starting playback...
A:4001.0 ( 1:06:40.9) of 4140.0 ( 1:09:00.0) 1.2%
[NULL @ 0xbf53e0]sample/frame number mismatch in adjacent frames
A:4139.7 ( 1:08:59.6) of 4140.0 ( 1:09:00.0) 1.2%

Any chance that your player beeps at 1:06:40 in that file? Mine doesn't, but, then, it tries to hide what it doesn't like, not call attention to it. Makes a little more sense to me than multiple people deciding to hear beeps in their head.
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12-07-2016, 12:16 PM
Post: #9736
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 11:43 AM)myth Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 10:43 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:  Now I think I know what people are talking about when they say there is a beep in the track. First, I don't think there is a real beep in the track, because I heard in in the third loop, but definitely not at the first one. This seem to be some kind of thing that happens when you process the sub information. Even if it may not happen for everyone. Have had something similar on some 5G titles but not that intense. Don't remember having this with 4G or 3G. Anyway, looks like that tone gets created in your head.

Could be something simpler than in-your-head. like the software player reaction to an encoding choice. For example, my player usually sees 1-2 frame issues per audio file (whether mp3 or flac), depending on the file:

Playing DMSI_V3_0_1_A_Hybrid_Subliminal_(Ocean_Surf_Ultrasonic).flac.
Audio only file format detected.
Load subtitles in ./
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 1014.3 kbit/71.88% (ratio: 126789->176400)
Selected audio codec: [ffflac] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg FLAC audio)
==========================================================================
AO: [oss] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Video: no video
Starting playback...
A:4001.0 ( 1:06:40.9) of 4140.0 ( 1:09:00.0) 1.2%
[NULL @ 0xbf53e0]sample/frame number mismatch in adjacent frames
A:4139.7 ( 1:08:59.6) of 4140.0 ( 1:09:00.0) 1.2%

Any chance that your player beeps at 1:06:40 in that file? Mine doesn't, but, then, it tries to hide what it doesn't like, not call attention to it. Makes a little more sense to me than multiple people deciding to hear beeps in their head.

I would say this is not the case as this become a continuous high pitch beep at loop three. Started noticing it somewhere at minute eight and lasted until the end. I also "heard" it after stopping to listen. Now it almost faded away.

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12-07-2016, 12:30 PM
Post: #9737
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
Dumb question, if we are using DMSI primarily during sleep how do we account for the possible 90 minutes in delta that we may or may not be taking in subliminal input from the subs? I know the easy way out is to say play it when you are awake but I do not have time to consistently play the sub reliably 3 loops per day back to back during my waking hours without being interrupted, so sleep is the next viable option
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12-07-2016, 01:11 PM
Post: #9738
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 12:30 PM)sawell54 Wrote:  Dumb question, if we are using DMSI primarily during sleep how do we account for the possible 90 minutes in delta that we may or may not be taking in subliminal input from the subs? I know the easy way out is to say play it when you are awake but I do not have time to consistently play the sub reliably 3 loops per day back to back during my waking hours without being interrupted, so sleep is the next viable option

if i'm correct.... it doesn't matter what state you're in, the subliminal goes directly to the subconscious which i believe is active 24/7/365.

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12-07-2016, 01:19 PM
Post: #9739
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
(12-07-2016 01:11 PM)eternitys_child Wrote:  
(12-07-2016 12:30 PM)sawell54 Wrote:  Dumb question, if we are using DMSI primarily during sleep how do we account for the possible 90 minutes in delta that we may or may not be taking in subliminal input from the subs? I know the easy way out is to say play it when you are awake but I do not have time to consistently play the sub reliably 3 loops per day back to back during my waking hours without being interrupted, so sleep is the next viable option

if i'm correct.... it doesn't matter what state you're in, the subliminal goes directly to the subconscious which i believe is active 24/7/365.

You may be incorrect on this one. In Delta, everything mind related seems to shut down and the body focuses on physical rejuvenation and healing. It is entirely possible that there is no data getting through during this time. It would be a fascinating experiment to see what happens when we only expose people during this state, but... of course we can't do that.

To answer the OP, I don't have a good answer for you. I just know that 3 loops per day is what came out of the models. I also know that it's working like gangbusters for me when I use it sleeping.

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12-07-2016, 01:30 PM
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion
What are you working on NOW or about to begin working on soon....MHS? GPR? I Mean which one is literally on the back burner,in que,soon to be & ready to be worked on?

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