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06-29-2015, 04:35 AM
Post: #61
RE: AM6
Question for you guys. Is it normal to lose interest when a girl online doesn't ask any questions? I was messaging this girl ages ago and then she left the site. Came back, saw me and sent me a message asking how I was. I replied, she replied but didn't ask any questions. She did say that what I I've been up to sounds interesting.

I think the thing is I dislike chasing. I expect the girl to meet me at a somewhat similar level of involvement. If I ask questions and the response has no questions I tend to lose interest. If I meet a girl socially and then later she's showing interest in another guy I'll step down. Not from a place of losing or giving up, but I lose interest in the girl. It feels demeaning to me to 'try' in the sense of trying to one-up another guy for instance.

In that above example I feel like I should be dominant, but I'd be competing with a guy who can talk so much shit haha.
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06-29-2015, 06:51 AM
Post: #62
RE: AM6
(06-29-2015 04:35 AM)Andarras Wrote:  Question for you guys. Is it normal to lose interest when a girl online doesn't ask any questions? I was messaging this girl ages ago and then she left the site. Came back, saw me and sent me a message asking how I was. I replied, she replied but didn't ask any questions. She did say that what I I've been up to sounds interesting.

I think the thing is I dislike chasing. I expect the girl to meet me at a somewhat similar level of involvement. If I ask questions and the response has no questions I tend to lose interest. If I meet a girl socially and then later she's showing interest in another guy I'll step down. Not from a place of losing or giving up, but I lose interest in the girl. It feels demeaning to me to 'try' in the sense of trying to one-up another guy for instance.

In that above example I feel like I should be dominant, but I'd be competing with a guy who can talk so much shit haha.

I have a lot of experience online with girls. And in my experience, conversation based upon questions is the most boring of the all. The trick is to make an observation about her to spin the wheels, "I feel that you are a kind of a girl that would want to have one solid friend rather than dozens of fragile friends." If she shared something with you about her or about what she is up to. You can give your point of view about it. Tease her, make a statement about it and ask a question. Investing is pretty important in a conversation. Consider for instance, "Oh, that sounds fun!" Vs, "Oh, that sounds fun, but if I was there with you, I'd have never let you do it!" It doesn't matter she lost interest or not, it can just as easily be build up if you are having genuine fun.

I dislike chasing too, for the matter of fact, I never used to message a girl first, never. It does two things, it takes away the doubts, does she likes me or not? And, you get to maintain your frame.
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06-29-2015, 03:26 PM
Post: #63
RE: AM6
It seems to happen alot, stupid short answers, or they don't ask something back or just randomly stop answering. And less attractive girls act like this online too.

Especially since approaching a fair bit lately i'm seeing that girls react completely different online, like the way I approach girls for real gets good reactions but the same thing online gets nothing.

I wonder if some of it is because i'm in a small town also. I keep going back to online because there isn't a huge amount of opportunities here. Though as I get better with approaching more opportunities will open up, but unfortunately I can't go out and have literally hundreds of girls walking past to approach like in a city so usually it's one or two in an outing I can do.
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06-30-2015, 03:29 AM
Post: #64
RE: AM6
haha yeah I think it's the abundance mentality. They probably get at least a dozen messages a day, and so they literally don't need to put too much effort in. The girl I was referring to messaged me back and asked nothing about me. Basically a nice statement with absolutely no hook. She then replied and asked me how my day was lol. I'll give her another chance.

I sometimes get girls who reply back with no question or anything. I usually reply but I know they're message is because mine made them feel good, and they want to acknowledge that but aren't interested.

I've decided to focus on my weight a bit more. As in gaining. I'm a little underweight, not interested in hitting up the gym. Currently shifting some stuff in my 'diet'. I don't like cooking for one, and am trying to save money, lots of money. Been eating peanut butter sandwiches for lunch and dinner for a couple of months. Every second night I will have an Aldi 2-minute meal. Most of them taste amazing, only $3 and about 650 calories. A bowl of veggies with some sauce at least 4-5 nights a week. I've got this cool app that actually tells me roughly how much weight I'll lose or gain based on how many calories under/over my daily goal I am, plus it can scan most barcodes.

Decided to change my style back. Well hair style. I like wearing a nice blazer but I had long hair which unfortunately, long hair in my family is prone to get greasy. So today off with the hair, back to short and spiky. I think it actually suits me, although I like it with a little bit of length, just enough to rough it up with some gel. Funny thing, as soon as I got my hair cut I felt really alpha, like really powerful. When I looked in the mirror it actually fel like when you look at a very alpha guy in a movie. I've had this look before and never felt like that.

Something definitely feels like it's shifting. I feel like I'm developing this 'I don't give a shit' attitude. In a good way. Is this something you guys experienced in the subs? Or maybe it's to do with the choice stuff I created.

Oh, I did have something really weird happen today. It could be my imagination though. Has anyone seen the movie Inception? I watched the first hour last night and was really taken by the idea of all the people in the dream turning on someone or something that changes the dream. Anyway, that could be why I felt this way. But today when I was getting my hair cut it literally seemed like everyone was walking in front of me. I'd be walking and someone would seemingly veer in front of me. One guy in front of me walking same direction suddenly moves in front of me but there was nothing for him to avoid. It was only 3pm not like a lunch rush or anything. 25 minutes later after my hair cut nothing happened. Can the subconscious literally be afraid, or sense, a defining moment? Maybe that was why I felt so powerful when I looked in the mirror. I'd forgotten all about that incident until just now.

I think a couple of women glanced at me today. Oh, I do recall one youngish girl gave me a strange look when I glanced at her and held it. I wasn't really fazed, but also felt god about it, strangely enough. I couldn't put my finger on why I felt good about a not-so-good response but as I was typing I think I caught the edge of it. It's like I'd rather live my life, and upset one or two people along the way, than let life lead me.

Also, I don't know if it's my subconscious trying to cling on to its last bit of control, but this thought pops into my head, more of a question. Are women attracted to the powerful man, or are they attracted to a man who is powerful but also soft? When I see couples I don't often see powerful alpha males, yet for the most part a lot of relationships are strong.

It definitely feels like I'm on the right path with the subs and the choice stuff I'm doing.
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06-30-2015, 04:06 AM
Post: #65
RE: AM6
I also imagined going really deep down in a lift into my subconscious and being taken to a room with an ornate chest (similar to the concept from Inception). I imagined all the negative beliefs and everything associated with a particular belief were in this chest. It was interesting, because whoever was taking me there kept asking me if I was sure. I took some papers out of the chest, and then took them to a room with a massive fire where they were burnt. Might try that again, can't hurt Smile
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06-30-2015, 04:26 AM
Post: #66
RE: AM6
I've decided to get back into the Inner Family Systems stuff. It's pretty powerful, but I think I shied away from it out of fear. I did the practice once and I have to say I actually seemed to act differently. I don't think it will impact with the subs. It's a process where you essentially learn about a pattern you have, such as Intimacy-Avoidance, then you go through some questions and eventually you pick a situation that's coming up where you want to act from a more empowered you and you do a kind of visualisation where you go back and talk to and support the younger part of yourself that's creating this negative pattern. You set up how you're going to act in the future situation and get this parts approval.

I don't think that will have an impact on the subs. I will probably only do the process once a week or so anyway.
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07-01-2015, 04:13 AM
Post: #67
RE: AM6
Little bit frustrated when I got home as I was advised my issue with the IFS system (Inner Family System) should be rectified. It wasn't.

Today was a pretty good day overall. I'm becoming more in tune with women's energy/vibes I think. Every now and then I'll get a jolt of awareness in my body and look around me. Make eye contact with a woman who instantly smiles. It's like I'm sensing them or sensing them sensing me if that makes sense. I was walking towards my Qigong class and started noticing awesome sensations in my body and then just kind of letting them expand. Think some woman noticed that as well.

That strange phenomenon of people constantly getting in my way happened again. It's strange because I've never sensed people 'moving' in my way. Normally if I'm in a hurry it's more like they get in my way.

Met a really cute girl at Qigong class. We connected immediately. Chatting and laughing about stuff before class. At the end she kind of slid up beside me and shook my hand and said it was good meeting me. But she almost whispered it. So I asked her if I could connect on facebook and she got really nervous. She said yes but I could sense that she wasn't keen. She apologised and said she's really hesitant about adding people and that maybe sometime in the future. I didn't get the vibe that it was about me at all.

Oh yeah, I was standing at the lights on the way to the class, feeling damn good, and I glance at this woman next to me who's talking with her friends. She glanced back at me and I'm pretty sure she stopped what she was saying mid sentence haha.

I just realised too, I have a 7 day seminar coming up in about a weeks time so I'll only be getting about 7-8 hours a day for those days so I'm making sure to ramp up the days before to make up for the difference. I should stil average 13 hours per day by the end of Phase 2 so all good.
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07-01-2015, 11:24 AM (This post was last modified: 07-01-2015 11:24 AM by stratos.)
Post: #68
RE: AM6
Women love adding guys on facebook unless they like you and they have a boyfriend. Suggest you ask her out for a quick drink instead and/or over to yours to practice some qi gong.
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07-02-2015, 06:00 AM
Post: #69
RE: AM6
Alright! Finally got my access to the IFS website and just did my first session. Felt really good. Essentially it converts the 'negative' element and 'positive' element into entities so you can communicate with them. Then you kind of negotiate with the negative one (which is really a positive because all limiting behaviour has a positive purpose).

Diet-wise, I'm finding ways to increase my calories while also keeping costs reasonably low. I realised that eating lots of bread was busting my sodium intake. 10 slices of bread is pretty much the RDI in sodium done. Because I'm staying away from dairy I was limited. But I discovered the concept of bircher muesli. Essentially just oats soaked overnight in a liquid. Water, coconut water, juice, etc. I'm trying out the apple juice with two tablespoons of jam on top. 90g of oats plus juice and jam comes out at 500 calories.
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07-02-2015, 04:21 PM
Post: #70
RE: AM6
I'm interested how IFS goes for you. I stopped with the book and that because it seemed complex, but I did find the site recently and thought it would probably simplify and guide me through the process and have considered trying it.

Though as with EFT I do wonder how it would effect AM6.
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07-03-2015, 05:13 AM
Post: #71
RE: AM6
Well, I don't see too much crossover. There's no hypnosis or subliminals. There is a guided meditation but they don't give you instructions other than visuals. Everything that happens between you and the part is your choice.

It's intriguing, although I have this skepticism if I don't see some kind of dramatic result then my mind tries to discount it, but the idea seems very solid to me. It was interesting. Mine was about being more okay with my desire for them, and being a little more physical. My situation was when I'm on the bus. Although I'm not going to grope girls lol.

It started in the morning. Woman in front of me on the bus, seat frees up beside me but she didn't see. So I placed my hand on her arm. But the touch was different. You know how a lot of people touch in a timid way? It wasn't that. It felt like a very masculine touch. Then a little later this girl gets on and I look at her. She smiles at me, I definitely looked at her longer than I would normally partly because she had sunglasses on and I was trying to see her eyes lol.

Yesterday was a pretty stressful day at work because I lost about 4-5 hours due to having to fix a database. That was stressful because I was given three weeks to collate and massage a heap of data to identify the impact of age in the organisation. Unfortunately I'm on holidays for the last week which means I have two weeks. The guy I'm doing the project for sat down and looked over what I've done and was really impressed. He said we'll meet with the client later next week and see if they want more. The other problem is I'm waiting on data from another department.

Reached the elusive 3000 calories today! Pretty simple actually. Two meals of oats soaked in apple juice with a tablespoon of jam, some sandwiches, some tuna and mayo mixed together etc.
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07-04-2015, 02:53 AM
Post: #72
RE: AM6
Today was an up and down day. I think there was definitely a shift from the IFS session.

Last night was one of the weirdest dreams I've had in a long time. It seemed pretty negative. I recall that someone was going to rob my stuff and I stood up to them. But then they came back with friends and said they were going to take my stuff. So I woke up pretty bummed, I think it felt like I'd failed...

Question, does AM include fun stuff? Like making you more witty, charming, charismatic, fun, etc? I'm finding I can have good conversations but I feel like I'm lacking in the above department. One of the things that woman like is a man who can make them laugh. I can make women laugh sometimes but I find I come across as the more serious, maybe alpha guy. Or should I incorporate another sub with AM for that purpose?

It's like I'm this serious, alpha guy but I still don't think I fully own my desire. So I tend to lose women easily to the guys who know how to flirt, banter, joke, etc. I tend to not be very good at banter.

So I went to a festival today. Found the group. I noticed whenever a new person joined us I would introduce myself then suddenly everyone would introduce themselves, following my lead essentially. There was this one girl, I kind of liked her. Chatted to her for a bit, definitely a little more touchy-feely which is what the IFS session was about. A small group of us split off from the main group. Another cute girl who I've seen around but not really spoken to. We chatted for a while.

I was definitely getting some internal resistance. Small things like when we headed for the grass I went to sit next to the really cute girl and she said we should spread out. I took it as though it was personal and sat in front of them on the grass but a bit further away. I know it wasn't personal but that was my interpretation. And at the end the other girl 'seemed' a little distant toward me but when I said something she'd lean forward giving me her full attention.

It was really strange too. When both girls were together they seemed to dictate where we were going. But when it was just one of them they tended to look to the guys for guidance. Although they did ask us the whole group what everyone wanted to do.

I can say that I'm noticing some of my nice guy habits shifting. One of the girls, the cute one (seriously, she's one of the best looking girls I've met in a really long time) was complaining about how when she eats food it all goes to her hips. Normally ultra nice guy mode I would say something like 'you're not fat'. Now even though she literally isn't fat it's still a pretty shit response. Instead I responded 'and it's the one area where most exercise doesn't touch' haha.

What i really want to do is be a fly on the wall for the average conversation of a guy who women fawn over haha.

Anyway, I added one of the girls on facebook and came across the other one later as we have mutual friends. I'm a bit stuck. I really want to ask out hte really cute one but I feel that the other girl is probably better relationship suitability. Although to be fair the only thing I'm basing that on is that she's one of those girls who can be in a converation and get distracted and cut the conversation. She's not a big drinker or partyer, has a career/study path that she's passionate about. haha if I'm being honest the only true reason is that I think she's too attractive for me and that I have a better chance with the other girl.

Oh and when I got home I instantly started thinking about a girl I dated a while back who screwed me around. I was raging in my head even though I haven't thought about this girl in ages. Still in a funk!
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07-04-2015, 09:44 PM
Post: #73
RE: AM6
I'm thinking that when I start Stage 3 of AM, I'm going to reduce it by 2-3 hours a day and incorporate one of the manifest a lover type ones (actually might choose girlfriend option). Not sure if that would interfere with AM? I'd be aiming for at least 13 hours with AM and 3-5 hours with the lover/girlfriend one. Sounds like a few people are getting good results. Unless you guys think there's a different one that will help with the issues I am facing around being playful.

Something fascinating happened last night. I want to seriously get back into my NLP techniques so I fished out a document chock full of them from a book I found ages ago. This book was a lot less formal and scientific than most NLP books. I did a few of the simple ones around putting a particular quality like charismatic into points along the future time line and taking an image of a negative and then getting the image of the successful me and putting them back to back then spinning them really fast. And my personal favourite where you get the image of what you want to accomplish then put a small black pinhole in the middle and let a positive image zoom in and out several times. You set the image up for example it could be finding $100 bill. When I do that I feel really pumped up.

Anyway, after doing just a few of those I went to sleep. Had the coolest dream. I think a woman was accusing me of something (I was on the footpath). I pulled her to the ground but I feel like it was a metaphor for me leading her. We're sitting on the grass beside the footpath and she's giving me this look, kind of submissive and turned on. I'm touching her, stroking her arms, etc and she was just really attracted to me. Pretty sure we kissed and then I woke up. Better dream than the one the other night. One thing I did slightly different was I boosted the volume of the sub just a fraction before I went to sleep.
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07-05-2015, 08:50 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2015 08:50 PM by Frosted.)
Post: #74
RE: AM6
Definitely don't run another sub with AM6. If you are running AM5 its fine though.
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07-07-2015, 05:44 AM
Post: #75
RE: AM6
Today was cool. I had a meeting at work and I was pretty much in a position of running it. I've been working on a major reporting piece of work and we met with the client today for me to present what we had so far. My superior and my manager were there as well. All in all, it was very good. I handled most of the questions quite well and everyone was really pleased with how much work I'd done on it. Also, I was supposed to schedule the meeting for two days time but my Manager had time off so I had to pull it all together in just 4 hours. I had most of the data done but just scraped it together with 15 minutes to spare.

I'm becoming really intrigued by nlp again. I've studied it as part of a personal growth seminar. I have this doubt though that NLP is permanent, which I think is what has kept me away from it. But, in three days time I will be attending the third and final installment of the seminar so I have some experts to ask this question to. One of them is to take three fearful situations in my mind and push them away from me (dissociating) then draw a frame around them. I add to it by shrinking them with my fingers then flicking them away.
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07-09-2015, 04:05 AM
Post: #76
RE: AM6
So no cool dreams again, although I think there was a dream but can't remember it. My cold got worse but I think that's a good sign as the chemist gave me this herbal product and told me to double the dose. Plus got a ginseng energy supplement as I need to focus for this seminar. 7 days of roughly 9am-1am! It's good timing as I recently got back into NLP so I can ask a few questions.

I'm going to take the opportunity while I'm away at this seminar to get some reading on my phone done. Plus I have a notebook so I want to try and get a few internal journey type things done. While also attemping to get as many hours (not many) of subs in. I'm estimating that I'll literally get 2am to 8am so 6 hours a day.
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07-13-2015, 03:04 AM
Post: #77
RE: AM6
How is the IFS online tool going man? I'm considering subscribing to it but every time i've done FasterEFT or PSTEC it has affected AM6 negatively. I'm thinking IFS may be a little different as it's more communicating and integrating things instead of letting go of energy and emotions around it.

Do you feel it has taken away from the effectiveness of AM6 of numbed it? Though since it's your first run you may not really know, I just knew because i've been listening to subliminals for years.
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07-19-2015, 05:27 AM
Post: #78
RE: AM6
Hey guys, back on board now. Only got about six hours listened to in total but my average daily hours are still around 12 so happy with that.

I'm actually not that sure about subliminals now, although I'm still going to continue with them. Just do it and see what happens. I'm doing a lot of afformations which are essentially empowering questions such as 'Why am I so good at talking to women' and then the subconscious goes off to find the answer.

Ben, I haven't done the IFS stuff for a while. Haven't noticed any negative impacts from when I did it, although I'm not sure how you're comparing the results.
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07-19-2015, 07:23 AM
Post: #79
RE: AM6
(07-19-2015 05:27 AM)Andarras Wrote:  Hey guys, back on board now. Only got about six hours listened to in total but my average daily hours are still around 12 so happy with that.

I'm actually not that sure about subliminals now, although I'm still going to continue with them. Just do it and see what happens. I'm doing a lot of afformations which are essentially empowering questions such as 'Why am I so good at talking to women' and then the subconscious goes off to find the answer.

Ben, I haven't done the IFS stuff for a while. Haven't noticed any negative impacts from when I did it, although I'm not sure how you're comparing the results.

I question subliminals a lot too, my belief in them has a lot of ups and downs.
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