Post Reply 
Findingme's Universal Detox thread
11-30-2017, 05:21 PM
Post: #61
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
I was in the DMSI journals a short while tonight, and I read some men taking short breaks from DMSI at times, and some even scheduling it for so many days a week vs. all 7.

I bring this up since the fatigue from UD has been pretty consistent lately. I called out of work today due to fatigue, and I"m remembering some guy here saying he lost his job due to fatigue on a newer sub (DMSI?). I'm not looking to do that. I read UD is a B/C type sub, and C subs affect us physically.

I'd love some opinions on scheduling breaks on the 5.5 subs.

Also, I do wonder if a bloom would manifest for UD, and specifically......what would bloom? Intense honesty :-) ? Reading on their experiences has gotten me curious. Being honest feels good, especially since I've always kept my truths inside. It's a whole new discovery--meaning change! Being honest has felt very good when I've spit stuff out--I've said things I'd never said--or even considered.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-30-2017, 09:02 PM
Post: #62
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
A bit of a break can be good at times, especially with healing programs. If you're going to do that then maybe try it after the initial 3 months.

I've had some fatigue on UD a few times, but it seems when it happens i'm just detoxing something else physically because I get other symptoms along with it.

I can't really say what the bloom would be like on UD because it's a pretty subtle program, not as obvious as others. But after I used DMSI for around 9 months without stopping I wish I had taken a bit of a break inbetween to let it settle, depends how long you want to do UD for.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Benjamin's post:
findingme, Daredevil
12-03-2017, 04:12 PM
Post: #63
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
I am feeling real low, and I think I've been waiting on affirmations/validation from others to say I'm likeable/lovable........that I am worth it in life. My sleep has been on and off, my diet's similar, lots of coffee, and little socializing. I did see friends last night, but I even considered bailing when one didn't show up like he'd said. He showed up 2 hours late. During my wait, I'd put on ASC ultrasonic on my phone, and I felt myself getting intolerant. I made a deadline for myself, and he showed up 15 minutes later. I had some honest moments last night, so it was good I stayed.

I know I'm low, and that's why I'm writing. I don't want pity responses, and I've not written due to that old norm in my head--manipulating for attention. I am lonely, yet pity won't help me. I don't want that.

I'm needing to dump my stuff though. I shared last night with my old sponsor that I've not been to a meeting in 3 weeks, and he replied "none? None in 3 weeks?" I usually go to 2-3 meetings out of habit and "old comfort" feelings. I'm needing to connect. I even skipped out from seeing my mom today. I feel like s*** actually, but I had too much coffee last night, and I stayed in bed until noon. She lives a town away, my "kind of" valid reason for skipping. ................. I'm detecting I've been doing the same thing with her I've done in meetings, which is manipulating for attention and validation of who I am.

I'm mad at myself now, going back and forth, as I've "conveniently" hid this from everyone, myself included. I have created this lifestyle the last 10 years (at least) where my presence ALWAYS involved, in big or small ways, that.........I had a problem and needed (wanted) someone to meet me in it and resolve it with me--yes, old childhood thinking. I began counseling when I was only 18. I did that for 3 years (more for attention), finally discovering 12 step meetings. However, meetings often attract sick people, so my choices for listeners narrowed. People who go often aren't all available for me, like I want, when I wanted it. However, beggars can't be choosers, so I adapted. I'll be down, but if you're up, I'll put on my "up" face so I can not be alone. Same if I'm up, and you're down. I adapt quickly, and it's hurting me now. What's strange is if I see someone who's manipulating for attention, it bothers me. A voice in my head screams "BULL****!!" A guy at work does this. I have compassion and disgust both since he demands attention, yet I see a 40 year old teenager doing what I've done.

I've been keeping secrets of my sub usage. I'd used afformations subs for 2 nights previous (did UD last night), and began thinking "what am I afraid of?" Honesty? Growth? Change?

Yes. Every time an awareness hits me, I break down in tears, at least lately. Sharing last night with my old sponsor and another guy, I realized I'd not been to meetings for I feel a real flood coming, a torrent of tears, of grief. I've hurt myself a lot in recent years, mostly by ignoring or stuffing my truths. It's been about 2 months since I've shared and wept in a meeting. I said I wanted to do that--and it terrifies me --which makes no sense as I write that. I've tended to "clench up" my gut when afraid, holding it inside, hiding it from others---and seeking/desiring someone to ask me about me...........yes, I've sought people's attention, but rarely by being direct. I'm seeking a parental figure to pull it out of me (I see this in my head).

The last time I broke down in a meeting, I let 4 or 5 people speak first, and I finally took my chance. After I'd said my name, I just wept, having held it in, knowing I'd share it before I walked in the room. 90% of meetings I go in with my shields up, but this time I felt both scared and assertive about needing to share. I've wasted a LOT of time ignoring my feelings, fearing something or someone unsafe (imagined parental figures). I'm unsure of my actual pattern, but when I've opened my mouth to share, I've fantasized about safe, caring people, not always looking around.

Regarding subs, I began listening to ASC yesterday after reading some journals on it. I've been eyeing AM6, but ASC is free, it's 5G, so......I'm running it now. Yes, I'm mixing subs. I'm just really uncomfortable right now with what's coming up. And ASC gave me a little courage to write here.

I like UD's clearing out.....but does it replace anything? I bought it originally thinking it had LTU scripting, but I've been told that was an error. I've liked LTU, I've liked AM. Both since they not only defuse negativity and things which bring self harm, but replace them with things I want. Honesty. Integrity. Fairness. Truth. Self respect.

I'm all emotional, so I won't chase that right now. I'm trying to "be" somebody, while ignoring my untruths. Will turn UD back on tonight though. I am seeking a resolution inside myself. Maybe I'm seeking perfection.

I am desiring it.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes findingme's post:
Have at ye
12-26-2017, 06:21 AM
Post: #64
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
Findings,

How is your UD going? This program makes me feel physically weird and just off. I am considering a longer run but I just don’t know what this program is really doing other than some shifts in attitude.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-26-2017, 04:10 PM
Post: #65
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
Tholt,
I got on UD for emotional clearing, and it touched me deeper than any other sub has in my life. 5.5 subs have an intense power, and it hit me emotionally and physically--both heavily.

It really went straight to my fears of being honest (with myself), and it dismantled it. However, like you, I wondered "what will replace my fears?" Once a bit of clearing had been done, I was antsy (afraid of not knowing, aka afraid of not being in control?). Maybe it was resistance. It likely was/is. I even began planning on crying when I went to some of my meetings, as just opening my mouth was just seconds away from expressing old grief, having kept everything inside me, for YEARS.

Physically, I did some coughing in the mornings, but nothing major changed since my health is pretty good for my age. However, the physical fatigue kicked my butt. I must have been doing some major brain rewiring, as I relied on caffeine heavily in my job. I'd do 3 cups of coffee without batting an eye since......it pepped me up and kept me alert.

I've not used UD now in 2 weeks. I tried this sub, that sub, and since specific awarenesses were arising (victim mindset, unforgiveness of myself, freedom from my past), I willingly turned back to E2. I tried ultrasonic for a week, but just like my first run, it barely seemed to affect me. I'm running the stream version, and I'm actually wanting to go through this healing.

Regarding UD, it is a remarkable sub for clearing out junk--emotionally from my experience.

And even the last night I ran it, I noticed it cleaning out my mind again, as I found truths coming up. Not knowing what's happening to me via the sub, sadly, is a detractor. I am uninformed, so I'm not presently using it. E2's description gives me hope, plus Shannon's words that longer runs have heavily helped some with painful pasts keeps me in this aim. One day at a time.

Why'd you begin using UD?
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes findingme's post:
Benjamin
12-26-2017, 05:45 PM
Post: #66
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
(12-26-2017 04:10 PM)findingme Wrote:  Tholt,
I got on UD for emotional clearing, and it touched me deeper than any other sub has in my life. 5.5 subs have an intense power, and it hit me emotionally and physically--both heavily.

It really went straight to my fears of being honest (with myself), and it dismantled it. However, like you, I wondered "what will replace my fears?" Once a bit of clearing had been done, I was antsy (afraid of not knowing, aka afraid of not being in control?). Maybe it was resistance. It likely was/is. I even began planning on crying when I went to some of my meetings, as just opening my mouth was just seconds away from expressing old grief, having kept everything inside me, for YEARS.

Physically, I did some coughing in the mornings, but nothing major changed since my health is pretty good for my age. However, the physical fatigue kicked my butt. I must have been doing some major brain rewiring, as I relied on caffeine heavily in my job. I'd do 3 cups of coffee without batting an eye since......it pepped me up and kept me alert.

I've not used UD now in 2 weeks. I tried this sub, that sub, and since specific awarenesses were arising (victim mindset, unforgiveness of myself, freedom from my past), I willingly turned back to E2. I tried ultrasonic for a week, but just like my first run, it barely seemed to affect me. I'm running the stream version, and I'm actually wanting to go through this healing.

Regarding UD, it is a remarkable sub for clearing out junk--emotionally from my experience.

And even the last night I ran it, I noticed it cleaning out my mind again, as I found truths coming up. Not knowing what's happening to me via the sub, sadly, is a detractor. I am uninformed, so I'm not presently using it. E2's description gives me hope, plus Shannon's words that longer runs have heavily helped some with painful pasts keeps me in this aim. One day at a time.

Why'd you begin using UD?

I used it to get past some emotional issues. It was an amazing program. It brought to light a lot of issues and other things as well.

I’m considering doing a SE run but I might hold off on that and run UD longer
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes THolt's post:
findingme
12-27-2017, 04:31 AM
Post: #67
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
Wow. During and after writing that, I looked with eyes wide open saying "What is TRUE for ME?!" I have heavily wanted healing--healthy change--in my life, and subs are a real key, especially with 5.5 subs.

Having gone through some of my old writings, Ben's writings (since he's been on UD too), I.......turned UD back on last night. I'm home now, with it on again.

I'd not been to the UD sales page in a while, but just went, re-reading it. I found this:

"Universal Detox also includes a healing and clearing component, which will activate if there is anything that stands in the way of the program executing. In other words, if some part of you does not want to cooperate, the program is designed to get you to try to heal and clear the reason so you can execute it and achieve its goals."

S*** guys, this program works. "if some part of you does not want to cooperate"....

My old sponsor told me last weekend "be careful what you ask for. You just may get it". I've wanted healing. I'm back on UD, again.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-28-2017, 02:37 PM
Post: #68
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
Just wait till you see what Genuine Happiness and Joy does...

Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Shannon's post:
findingme, Inconceivablezen, jonathan4all
12-28-2017, 02:46 PM
Post: #69
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
(12-28-2017 02:37 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Just wait till you see what Genuine Happiness and Joy does...
I'll be waiting.... Whistle

Thank you for the heads up!
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-29-2017, 02:53 PM (This post was last modified: 12-29-2017 02:53 PM by findingme.)
Post: #70
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
(12-28-2017 02:37 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Just wait till you see what Genuine Happiness and Joy does...

Shannon,
I've noticed that you've introduced subs recently that were unexpected (Exercise Motivation), but I don't scour your journal postings either.

How soon might this be out?
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-29-2017, 08:55 PM
Post: #71
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
It was out yesterday haha Tongue
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-30-2017, 11:37 AM
Post: #72
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
He's talking about Happiness and Joy, Shannon Stated that happiness and joy won't be made for a while because it is to complex for a Focus Fire Subliminal. This is mainly because it is human nature to err to the Negative side of things.

E2 Days in All: 606 Days

UD Start Date: November 1st, 2017- January 19th 2018

INTJ 4w5
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Daredevil's post:
findingme
12-30-2017, 02:37 PM
Post: #73
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
WOW,

Shannon,

Will Genuine Happiness and Joy be 5.5 or 6? Any time frame? I'm REALLY EXCITED for this one!!
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-30-2017, 03:59 PM
Post: #74
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
Probably will be 5.5 G and will probably be built in between DMSI 3.2 and 3.3 because solving the problems that impede hapiness and joy in humans will be a big thing to intergrate in the 6G skeleton script.

E2 Days in All: 606 Days

UD Start Date: November 1st, 2017- January 19th 2018

INTJ 4w5
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Daredevil's post:
findingme
12-31-2017, 01:20 PM
Post: #75
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
i Want to be Happy just as much or more than I want to get laid all the time.

I hope that comes out ASAP!!!!
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-31-2017, 03:02 PM (This post was last modified: 12-31-2017 04:48 PM by findingme.)
Post: #76
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
(12-30-2017 03:59 PM)Daredevil Wrote:  Probably will be 5.5 G and will probably be built in between DMSI 3.2 and 3.3 because solving the problems that impede hapiness and joy in humans will be a big thing to intergrate in the 6G skeleton script.

This makes so much sense to me. I've looked longingly at newer subs coming out.....but if one--especially DMSI--were to include all of them, I'd definitely wait for it.

DMSI has a focus on clearing out old head trash with women (those who we're attracted to), and I've been thinking on that some this weekend. Last weekend, my daughter asked me if any new females had come into my life, and I welcomed her question with a smile. My answer was "no", but her curiosity caught my attention. I'd been thinking on that exact thing days earlier. She's 13, so she's looking for relationship examples. The whole mood/attitude/happiness/hopefulness factor comes into relationships continually, and having a fast, effective sub tackle the mental giants is a great gift I'll willingly wait for.

Getting laid is nice, but keeping a relationship, in my book, is something I'd like tools for. I need to change or adjust my own thinking first, and I'll wait for those tools. I like what I've seen coming out.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-31-2017, 03:34 PM (This post was last modified: 12-31-2017 05:00 PM by findingme.)
Post: #77
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
I'm running UD now, and I consider it almost a test sub for mental/emotional clearing. I've bought, used, and made subs for 2 years now, and nothing ever hit me like UD did. I'll be antsy and irritated after work, will come home, and often just start up UD since I'll only have 10 hours before I have to go back.

I'll wake up feeling lighter and freer. I like that. Comparing it to other vendor's subs or one's I've made myself, IML subs dig up and replace crud, while other subs just pile stuff on top of my thinking. I know Shannon doesn't imply or state it in any way, but I'd use subs any day over face to face therapy--as I "hid" in therapist's offices for years past (for multiple years). His stuff clears out stuff I've clung to for decades. I'll take this "therapy" any day. Adding onto that, try paying a therapist once and coming back for more visits without paying again. Ain't gonna happen. Just ain't.

I'll fix my thinking instead. I'll choose subliminals. Thanks for making these Shannon.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
12-31-2017, 04:37 PM (This post was last modified: 12-31-2017 04:42 PM by findingme.)
Post: #78
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
Something I am curious about is that I've not had dreams surface, as I've rarely remembered dreams for years. One dream I had years ago stuck in my memory since it was so unusual. It wasn't a bad dream at all, but I kept it in my memory since I had slept very soundly, I woke up naturally (no alarm clock), so a lack of fear/tension may have allowed it to surface. It was a pleasant dream.

I'm bringing this up since using UD I sometimes will have clear daydreams while at work. I'll be riding shotgun in our work truck traveling 5-20 minutes to a site, and I'll daydream. Sometimes prominent imaginations will come up, like saying something I've wanted to or needed to to people, but haven't due to fear. I'll play these daydreams out fully, as I imagine some resolution which I've really wanted.

Is this normal? No remembered night dreams in my life, but somewhat regular daydreams with imagined feel-good resolutions. And my body relaxes once I've fixed the problem (in my head). I've always been a daydreamer, but UD has been making its imprint in my daydreams, I believe, as it feels similar to a sleeping dream in my head. The awareness of it after feels like my mind had been in sleep mode.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
01-20-2018, 06:09 PM
Post: #79
RE: Findingme's Universal Detox thread
I'm back on UD, having run Self Esteem almost a week. SE is an excellent program. I just realized more clearing was necessary, so I sidelined it for now.

I began UD 1/18/18. I've had many good moments before I pulled off it, I'd been PMing different users about their sub habits and experiences, and realized I WANT THIS.

Thank you Shannon, for your tough words to ride out the resistance. I've not had much turbulence since coming back on, but wow--I was very, very aware something was running in my head the first day after. When I'd just listen to my thinking during the work day, it was like I could hear something (maybe the trickling stream). I also FELT like some things were being shuffled around. I could actually feel something, and as a stroke survivor who actively worked on healing my brain, UD felt very similar. Yes, the brain can regenerate itself given time, energy, and enough resources. UD is doing some healing too, and I am grateful to have picked it up.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes findingme's post:
Shannon
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  Ultimate Detox Journey THolt 10 1,002 11-28-2017 07:15 AM
Last Post: findingme
  Detox Ain't A Rental: myth on UD myth 21 1,832 09-28-2017 06:07 AM
Last Post: myth
  Universal Detonation Darkness 16 2,357 09-19-2017 04:52 AM
Last Post: Benjamin
  [SR's Journal 01] [Universal Detox] SilentReader 1 490 08-21-2017 10:07 PM
Last Post: Shannon

Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread:
3 Guest(s)

Return to TopReturn to Content