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04-17-2017, 05:45 AM
Post: #21
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Nox when i was running MHS last night I felt energy going up my spine. It was like i was about to be awakened very bizzare. Will keep this thread going and keep you posted.
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04-17-2017, 07:34 AM
Post: #22
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(04-17-2017 05:45 AM)thor2014 Wrote:  Nox when i was running MHS last night I felt energy going up my spine. It was like i was about to be awakened very bizzare. Will keep this thread going and keep you posted.

Any of Shannon's subs that use energy flooding have the potential to cause this. Depending upon how well you bring in the energy it'll first use as directed initially, but it'll also start filling up your normal energetic movements beyond what they're used to most likely. Think of a river flowing. It starts to rain a lot (energy flooding) and that water saturates the land and flows I to the river also so that the river is now carrying much more water.

A good thing to look into to understand the movements through your torso is the microcosmic orbit in general, and the governor and conception meridians specifically. From there you can look into the other meridians to see how the flow works through the limbs and organs.
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04-17-2017, 12:26 PM
Post: #23
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Spoke to one of the instructors from kundalini awakening he told me that. He was in a plane flying over the Philippines. One of the engines broke down or failed for some reason. He had to use kundalini energy to keep the plane in the air. To allow it to land safely. Again sounds very far fetched however he seemed very serious about this.
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04-17-2017, 12:28 PM
Post: #24
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I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.
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04-17-2017, 12:35 PM
Post: #25
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(04-17-2017 12:28 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.

I would recommend never paying for shaktipat
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04-18-2017, 09:33 PM
Post: #26
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Nox I believe you to be the expert in Kundalini awakening. However I would like to hear from you why you feel that you should never pay for shaktipa ?.

Correct me if i am wrong its like saying Shannon should not be charging money for this subs ?

(04-17-2017 12:35 PM)Nox Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 12:28 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.

I would recommend never paying for shaktipat
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04-19-2017, 04:19 AM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2017 04:42 AM by Nox.)
Post: #27
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(04-18-2017 09:33 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  Nox I believe you to be the expert in Kundalini awakening. However I would like to hear from you why you feel that you should never pay for shaktipa ?.

Correct me if i am wrong its like saying Shannon should not be charging money for this subs ?

(04-17-2017 12:35 PM)Nox Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 12:28 PM)thor2014 Wrote:  I am planning on taking shaktipat at some point will keep you all posted.

I would recommend never paying for shaktipat

There are zero issues with Shannon charging for his subs. They are based on knowledge and skills he developed and so he is completely in the right to charge for them as he sees fit.

Kundalini isn't something a person does on their own. I can't think of a decent comparison, but it'd be similar to me charging someone for using something special to my mother without my mother's consent.

Shaktipat for a person with an already awakened kundalini also acts differently than for someone that hasn't begun. It can help the process or it can force and start it. The later is rather irresponsible if done for money. If it's in a student teacher relationship that's already established that is different as there is already an acknowledgement of trade back and forth for the betterment of both, but even then charging a fee for shaktipat is wrong.

Charging money for kundalini is just a nasty idea. I don't trust anyone that would do it. I've read about and helped some people through some terrible experiences that have happened because of it.

Edit:. I'm no expert man. I'm still learning just like everyone else. I've just experienced and seen enough to understand that a lot of "experts" in spiritual matters realized that using terms like expert and master or whatever helps them get more money out of people. Tongue
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04-19-2017, 05:32 AM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2017 06:14 AM by RisingSon.)
Post: #28
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Kundalini is the process of saving yourself, so it wouldn't be wise to pay someone else to do it for you - in some spiritual ethics sense. Then you may end up with situations like that Indian guru Osho who had amassed nearly 100 Rolls Royces paid for by the penance of his followers. Huh Bad guru!

Traditionally it was kept behind closed doors for initiates in ancient mystery schools who underwent trials to test them and be certain of their commitment to expanding consciousness beyond realms of ordinary... And then ascending in the magical boat to mystery land or wherever because they did believe at that point in living forever whether in this life or the next.

Since then much of that knowledge on how to do such things safely, in an orderly fashion, with symbolic rituals and tests has been lost - along with the destination. Many will go through a roller coaster of Kundalini experience with unexplainable things happening to them when they are ill-prepared. This also triggers The Dark Night of The Soul for many including myself, as the energy is getting driven into blocked channels and stirring up all kinds of emotional karmic debris. So, like anything, it seems that it cannot come without some struggle... Even if that struggle is only abandoning all worldviews that you once held as normal or socially acceptable.

However, like it has been said, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" and Shannon's subs are obviously verging on this point. Good for him and us, but I can't get behind the whole promoting him to a guru thing. However again, if I were to simplify I see Kundalini as merely an awakening and developing of a person's subtle energy bodies (etheric, astral, ???) until they come to a certain level of awareness or dominance and for this reason it can be demystified. Kundalini is yet more than that - a supremely intelligent primal force that wants to become self-sustaining.

All in all, good stuff and makes me want to do some more energy flooding. If energy flooding is somehow concentrating and accumulating ORMUS molecules (similar to orgone) then it is most excellent. These elusive, volatile particles are everywhere but especially in sea water and volcanic minerals. They were rediscovered recently and are what feed the subtle bodies along with nervous system. Still, only a piece to the puzzle.
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04-19-2017, 09:40 PM (This post was last modified: 04-19-2017 09:40 PM by thor2014.)
Post: #29
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Thanks both of you for giving me such valued input. There is a famous kundalini instructor out there who apparently runs seminars and offers shaktipa with payments. I am not going to mention names as this might cause flaming on the forum.

He calls it the kundalini awakening seminar he offerers several levels. One has to be completed before moving to the next level.

For now will leave kundalini alone as I dont feel i know enough to immerse myself in this area.
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04-20-2017, 04:13 AM
Post: #30
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That guy was nice to me when we spoke but he wasn't super helpful either when I was simply looking for a bit of guidance and not making payments...Lol

I wouldn't worry about it Thor. If kundalini is something you're interested in, develop a good meditation habit and do some energy based movements. If it's for you it'll take you where you need to go for it to happen. You're not the only participant in this process and so you'll receive help as it's needed. Just don't rush it. Establish foundations and lifestyle and then you'll begin to know if it's something you really want.
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04-21-2017, 11:05 PM
Post: #31
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Sorry to hear that he seemed to focus purely on monetary terms when talking to you. I heard some interesting stories of guys in india. Who had attempted to awaken themselves. The biggest challenge for them was finding the appropriate mentor.


(04-20-2017 04:13 AM)Nox Wrote:  That guy was nice to me when we spoke but he wasn't super helpful either when I was simply looking for a bit of guidance and not making payments...Lol

I wouldn't worry about it Thor. If kundalini is something you're interested in, develop a good meditation habit and do some energy based movements. If it's for you it'll take you where you need to go for it to happen. You're not the only participant in this process and so you'll receive help as it's needed. Just don't rush it. Establish foundations and lifestyle and then you'll begin to know if it's something you really want.
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