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Why 32 days?
05-19-2010, 09:26 AM
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Why 32 days?
Hey Shannon

I'm curious how you arrived at the 32 days timeline for subliminals? Why do you find that exact number to be a marker for effectiveness? I ask because it's new to me and I wonder why not 30 days or 35 or 40...

Thanks for clearing it up.
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05-19-2010, 11:35 AM (This post was last modified: 07-13-2011 12:07 PM by Shannon.)
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RE: Why 32 days?
Good question, Alumni. Smile

Basically, that number is a result of a lot of research and experimentation. That is how long it takes to change a habit, and that is how long regular subliminals take to work. In many cases, mine work faster than that, but for a good impact, it's smart to go with the amount of time it takes to change a habit. I have also seen firsthand that it's a really good amount of time to use the subliminal, get the result, and have it last.

This is for Type B subliminals, of course. Types C, D and E take longer.

EDIT: AM and other 6 stage sets are designed specifically to be used for a set amount of time per stage. AM is 32 days per stage for the above reasons, plus other reasons which have to do with the specific design of each stage's script. Follow the directions to get the results you want.

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05-19-2010, 12:25 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
What type of Subliminal is Ultra Success,a B, C,D, or E Sub ????



This is for Type B subliminals, of course. Types C, D and E take longer.
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05-19-2010, 12:40 PM (This post was last modified: 05-19-2010 12:48 PM by Shannon.)
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RE: Why 32 days?
Type A is designed to trigger the Lizard Brain directly. It does not usually use speech. The Poetry of the Silent Eros titles are Type A and A/B hybrids.

Type B is designed to use speech to change the way that you think, what you believe, and what your mental programming is. These titles include things like Self Confidence, Life Tune-Up and Overcome Stage Fright. Ultra Success is a Type B/D hybrid, but not intentionally: when you change your thinking to success based thinking, things just naturally change to be better. Thus, the Type D part of the hybrid is a sort of pleasant side effect.

Type C uses a Type B base to make a physical change in your body. Think Stop & Reverse Hair Loss, Lose Weight, Increase Penis Size, etc. These require 2 to 4 weeks to have the Type B base take hold, and another order of magnitude longer (2 to 4 months) for the physical changes to result.

Type D is designed to act as an automatic subliminal-based manifestation vector. These programs attempt to manifest things into your life through the power of your subconscious mind. This is primarily the Attract Your Perfect Lover series, etc. but we have other programs for this as well. These require 20 days to 12 months to produce results, depending on circumstances, but usually require 4 to 8 months.

Type E is the long term programming. Currently, the only title we have that is Type E is Become A Multi-Millionaire Within Four Years. As you might guess, it requires 4 years of use.

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05-19-2010, 12:49 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
(05-19-2010 12:40 PM)Shannon Wrote:  Type A is designed to trigger the Lizard Brain directly. It does not usually use speech. The Poetry of the Silent Eros titles are Type A and A/B hybrids.

Type B is designed to use speech to change the way that you think, what you believe, and what your mental programming is. These titles include things like Self Confidence, Life Tune-Up and Overcome Stage Fright.

Type C uses a Type B base to make a physical change in your body. Think Stop & Reverse Hair Loss, Lose Weight, Increase Penis Size, etc. These require 2 to 4 weeks to have the Type B base take hold, and another order of magnitude longer (2 to 4 months) for the physical changes to result.

Type D is designed to act as an automatic subliminal-based manifestation vector. These programs attempt to manifest things into your life through the power of your subconscious mind. This is primarily the Attract Your Perfect Lover series, etc. but we have other programs for this as well. These require 20 days to 12 months to produce results, depending on circumstances, but usually require 4 to 8 months.

Type E is the long term programming. Currently, the only title we have that is Type E is Become A Multi-Millionaire Within Four Years. As you might guess, it requires 4 years of use.

So would you consider Aura of Sexiness a type B/D product? I say that because it's designed to change your way of thinking but is also supposed to "manifest" an aura around the user.

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05-19-2010, 05:56 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
Type D manifests a physical change. An aura is an energy change - energy is "pre-physical". I recently realized that I don't have a classification for the Aura programs. However, based on how I classified Type C and Type D, this is probably going to be classified as Type F, because all of the ones "after" Type B are using a Type B entry as a vector for the end results, and I don't consider them a hybrid.

So... When the Type B vector does not manifest a direct result itself, but is only acting as a doorway to the true result, we get a non-B classification.

So.. we might as well say that programs designed specifically for producing an Aura are Type F.

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05-20-2010, 01:28 AM
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RE: Why 32 days?
Ah ha.. Thanks for the insights, Shannon.
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05-25-2010, 02:43 AM
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RE: Why 32 days?
Does that mean after the minimum required days (32) I won't have to use the subliminal ever again?
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05-25-2010, 08:22 AM
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RE: Why 32 days?
In a perfect world, maybe. 32 days is what it will take to get the program to sink in and be used by your subconscious if it ts a Type B; some people find that is a long term or permanent change, and some people need periodic refreshers. It depends on the person and the program in question.

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04-30-2011, 02:56 AM
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RE: Why 32 days?
To Shannon: How about aura projecting subliminals? How long should you use them to have a lasting effect?
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05-02-2011, 07:10 AM
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RE: Why 32 days?
(04-30-2011 02:56 AM)Reiji Wrote:  To Shannon: How about aura projecting subliminals? How long should you use them to have a lasting effect?

Aura projection subliminals will have produced their result by 32 days. However, to get the result to be long term, you should use it for 90 days. Remember that 32 days is the minimum for a Type B program.

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10-20-2012, 06:28 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
For WM 2.0, the instructions state that you can choose to use each stage for 32-64 days, so long as you use every stage for that number of days. There is an obvious disadvantage to the entire program taking longer, but what are the other advantages and disadvantages of extending the length of the stages?

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10-21-2012, 05:38 AM
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RE: Why 32 days?
(10-20-2012 06:28 PM)Sean Wrote:  For WM 2.0, the instructions state that you can choose to use each stage for 32-64 days, so long as you use every stage for that number of days. There is an obvious disadvantage to the entire program taking longer, but what are the other advantages and disadvantages of extending the length of the stages?

Very good question, I've wondered this myself, about other subs. If one would spend longer on each stage, would it produce better results? I.e. if my wife, doing BE, would lengthen the time of the stages, would that produce bigger results at the end of stage 6?
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10-21-2012, 01:05 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
(10-20-2012 06:28 PM)Sean Wrote:  For WM 2.0, the instructions state that you can choose to use each stage for 32-64 days, so long as you use every stage for that number of days. There is an obvious disadvantage to the entire program taking longer, but what are the other advantages and disadvantages of extending the length of the stages?

Seems 5G has effectively thrown out the rule book in terms of the 6 stagers. According to what I read I find it kind of strange that 5G can be used for like 18-21 hours a day AND with reading your post can be used well beyond 32 days of usage.

5G is so new and the prospect of using the set beyond 32 days to say 40 is daunting. I think it would be kind of difficult to quantify the adv/disadv of extending it because of our respective ages, backgrounds, method of listening (in ear or speakers) and what not.

Perhaps we can get some people within 4-7 years of each other that can go through WM 5G with the same quantity of days regimen.
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10-21-2012, 05:32 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
It's not just 5G. Sex Magnet was also able to be used for 64 days. I think theres a reason something such as Alpha can't be because of it causing a bit of an imbalance in one stage to make the changes that is smoothed out in the next.
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10-21-2012, 07:27 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
I think Ben is onto something with that: If you push a building over too far, it falls over. Likewise with our internal structures. I think Shannon wants to push us off balance in one direction, then another, and another, until at the end we're re-balanced with all the rust chipped off. If we were pushed too far off balance, there's potential that some customers could be pushed too far off balance to recover from within the boundaries of a product designed for everyone.

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10-24-2012, 08:55 AM
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RE: Why 32 days?
Very much the case. The reason for allowing 32-64 days per stage is that A) it is safe for those programs which allow it, and B) it can be useful if you feel you need that amount of time per stage, or if you are experiencing a high degree of resistance. Just because you can, doesn't mean you need to. It is an option, however.

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09-19-2013, 05:39 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
Hello quick question why would be considered long term results? One year,ten years or would that depend on the user?
Also I remember reading somewhere on the website that I could listen to a single stage sub for 120 days. Would that give me permanent results?
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09-19-2013, 09:42 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
Quote:Shannon's post:
The results are permanent to the degree that they become self perpetuating after any given period of time. The conscious is influencing your subconscious to make changes according to how your subconscious naturally builds its "operating system" from all the most frequently experienced stimuli in your life. The outer world then adjusts to match the inner. But it takes time, and the stimuli are not static: if you normally hear that you are stupid 10 times a day, then over time, the sub telling you otherwise will be overridden if you stop using it, or unless and until you internalize the reverse and begin generating a new reality in which you are no longer receiving that stimulus externally, and/or are now strong enough to reject it instead of accept it.

Also, your beliefs can change instantly if you experience an intense trauma (like almost getting killed). Experiences like that can rewind your beliefs instantly even if you listened to a sub for a long time. It depends on your perception of reality.
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09-21-2013, 02:30 PM
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RE: Why 32 days?
(09-19-2013 09:42 PM)Ace Wrote:  
Quote:Shannon's post:
The results are permanent to the degree that they become self perpetuating after any given period of time. The conscious is influencing your subconscious to make changes according to how your subconscious naturally builds its "operating system" from all the most frequently experienced stimuli in your life. The outer world then adjusts to match the inner. But it takes time, and the stimuli are not static: if you normally hear that you are stupid 10 times a day, then over time, the sub telling you otherwise will be overridden if you stop using it, or unless and until you internalize the reverse and begin generating a new reality in which you are no longer receiving that stimulus externally, and/or are now strong enough to reject it instead of accept it.

Also, your beliefs can change instantly if you experience an intense trauma (like almost getting killed). Experiences like that can rewind your beliefs instantly even if you listened to a sub for a long time. It depends on your perception of reality.

Thanks that explained everything
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