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Achieve Your Ideal Weight 4G
01-03-2012, 11:33 PM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2012 05:51 AM by AwesomeYoungDude.)
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Hey Everyone. It's time for some serious weight_loss. I'm not disgustingly fat by any means, but after 4 years in college and gaining 20 pounds, ENOUGH WAS ENOUGH. Someone play me some music from Rocky... It is time to get in shape and stay that way for life. I've decided to lose 75 pounds.

I've been a longtime user of Shannon's products (and he is also a personal friend). Read a lot on this forum but never really chimed in. However, I am experimentally trying the new six stage Achieve Your Ideal Weight 4G program Shannon has built. It is my understanding he will be releasing it in about a month or two. He asked me to start up a journal here and report my results.

Here is my plan. I will update this journal each Friday. I started the program about three weeks ago, so I am posting all of that now.

For those of you that are REALLY interested, I am recording every detail on MyFitnessPal. You will be able to see my daily log updated in realtime of everything I eat, water consumption, and exercise (both the amount of time and what type I did). Got a little lazy over the holidays, but beginning today it will be kept up precisely each day. My username on there is also WheatBellyJM.

Also, here is my current progress chart from that site that is updated each Friday from my weigh-ins.

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Ediit by AYD: I added a _ to keep the auto link from engaging. This can be changed once the product is released.
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01-03-2012, 11:39 PM
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First Update (the only one not on a Friday because it is with initial post):

This is for the last three weeks that I started the program but had not begun my postings on here...

12/17 - Started Stage 1 for the first day. Had a very hard time falling asleep, very restless. Felt like that hazy feeling you get when you pull an all-nighter.

12/18 - Exhausted all day from lack of sleep. That night however, fell asleep much easier. However, when I wokeup I felt like I only got 5 or 6 hours of sleep instead of the 9 I got.

12/19 - Another exhausting day... Again felt like I only slept 5 or 6 hours instead of 8 and a half.

12/20-12/24 - I continually ran into the problem of feeling like I only slept 5 or 6 hours instead of 8 or 9. However, it gradually got better each day.

12/25 - Christmas Day. Little cousin woke me up at 7am but somehow today I didn't feel tired anymore...

12/27 - Today is a big day. It is weigh-in, but I have been stuffing my face with holiday food. Ham, Turkey, Potatoes... well you know the drill. I did not want to be rude and not eat them. Plus, resteraunts close a lot during these days so I just went with it. I thought for sure I would have regained one or two of the pounds I lost earlier. Jump on the scale... 1 POUND LESS THAN LAST WEEK, and this is after going nuts! Wow. In addition, I am now convinced after three days of not being tired anymore and having lots of energy that things have returned to normal.

1/4 - Decided to start a journal which I will post every Friday (same day I do weigh-ins on Myfitnesspal which will automatically update the chart on my first post). Expect a post in two days! Also, beginning today I will be keeping a daily food, water, and exercise diary which you can get to by clicking my weight loss tracker graph on first post.
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01-03-2012, 11:40 PM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2012 05:50 AM by AwesomeYoungDude.)
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Also just want to clarify -- The auto-linking on the forums is putting the product I am referencing to the current weight_lloss program.

This is NOT what I am doing. I am currently doing a unreleased program that should be out in the next month or two which is a full six stage set completely redone from the ground up by Shannon. This program is called Achieve Your Ideal Weight 4G (hence the title of this thread). Shannon can confirm this, and hopefully the Mods will edit/correct these links.

Just don't want to confuse or mislead.

Ediit by AYD: I added a _ to keep the auto link from engaging. This can be changed once the product is released.
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01-04-2012, 06:21 AM
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Good to see you finally posting here. I'm looking forward to following your journey on this one.

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01-04-2012, 11:03 PM
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(01-04-2012 06:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:  Good to see you finally posting here. I'm looking forward to following your journey on this one.

Thanks! Hopefully I can provide some interesting data to everyone here in the community. I also look forward to getting to know other sub users here. I also hope this helps motivate me as well so I don't slack off haha
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01-07-2012, 08:55 AM
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So are you ever gonna record what you told me you were experiencing two days ago now?

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01-12-2012, 01:03 AM
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Sorry for the delayed updates... but WOW a lot to cover.

First off, I'm down another 3 pounds (15 total now) when I weighed myself today. This was a bit early as I need to do my "official" weekly weigh in on Friday, but encouraging! Big Grin

Couple of things...

I'm finding myself no longer wanting or needing the same portion sizes as before. The biggest example of this was on Monday (1/9) when I went over to my parents for dinner. My mom fixed me two hamburgers which I ate (and have had meals like that for ages) along with potatoes. Afterwards, I was really upset (like actually angry) about it and decided there was no reason I should ever have more than 1 in a meal.

Also, I have noticed this week that I have stopped associating eating with fun. Usually, I find going out to eat a really fun entertainment. Now, I just want to eat what I need to be full and spend more time on my work than anything else.

Out of curiosity -- Is anyone (besides Shannon) reading this??
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01-12-2012, 07:24 AM
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(01-12-2012 01:03 AM)WheatBellyJM Wrote:  Sorry for the delayed updates... but WOW a lot to cover.

First off, I'm down another 3 pounds (15 total now) when I weighed myself today. This was a bit early as I need to do my "official" weekly weigh in on Friday, but encouraging! Big Grin

Couple of things...

I'm finding myself no longer wanting or needing the same portion sizes as before. The biggest example of this was on Monday (1/9) when I went over to my parents for dinner. My mom fixed me two hamburgers which I ate (and have had meals like that for ages) along with potatoes. Afterwards, I was really upset (like actually angry) about it and decided there was no reason I should ever have more than 1 in a meal.

Also, I have noticed this week that I have stopped associating eating with fun. Usually, I find going out to eat a really fun entertainment. Now, I just want to eat what I need to be full and spend more time on my work than anything else.

Out of curiosity -- Is anyone (besides Shannon) reading this??

I think everyone reads everybody’s posts, they just don’t always make comments on them. Good luck to you, I’m very interested in hearing about your results.

I have a question for Shannon. If someone who is not necessarily heavy or has a physical weight issue, more like they felt in their mind that they were heavy, obviously because of self esteem issues, would this program help them?

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01-12-2012, 10:22 AM
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(01-12-2012 07:24 AM)Patti Wrote:  
(01-12-2012 01:03 AM)WheatBellyJM Wrote:  Sorry for the delayed updates... but WOW a lot to cover.

First off, I'm down another 3 pounds (15 total now) when I weighed myself today. This was a bit early as I need to do my "official" weekly weigh in on Friday, but encouraging! Big Grin

Couple of things...

I'm finding myself no longer wanting or needing the same portion sizes as before. The biggest example of this was on Monday (1/9) when I went over to my parents for dinner. My mom fixed me two hamburgers which I ate (and have had meals like that for ages) along with potatoes. Afterwards, I was really upset (like actually angry) about it and decided there was no reason I should ever have more than 1 in a meal.

Also, I have noticed this week that I have stopped associating eating with fun. Usually, I find going out to eat a really fun entertainment. Now, I just want to eat what I need to be full and spend more time on my work than anything else.

Out of curiosity -- Is anyone (besides Shannon) reading this??

I think everyone reads everybody’s posts, they just don’t always make comments on them. Good luck to you, I’m very interested in hearing about your results.

I have a question for Shannon. If someone who is not necessarily heavy or has a physical weight issue, more like they felt in their mind that they were heavy, obviously because of self esteem issues, would this program help them?

Thanks Patti! I didn't want to post for nothing, but I'm also the newbie around here and don't know you guys very well yet so just thought I'd check. I look forward to getting to know everyone here on the boards throughout my journey!
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01-12-2012, 10:43 AM
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(01-12-2012 07:24 AM)Patti Wrote:  I think everyone reads everybody’s posts, they just don’t always make comments on them.

I know I do that Angel
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01-12-2012, 10:47 AM
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(01-12-2012 10:43 AM)Tigurinn Wrote:  
(01-12-2012 07:24 AM)Patti Wrote:  I think everyone reads everybody’s posts, they just don’t always make comments on them.

I know I do that Angel

I'm even more guilty than you guys. I've known about the store even before it was Indigo Mind Labs, and been on here reading all sorts of journals and just never started an account haha
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01-12-2012, 02:35 PM
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(01-12-2012 07:24 AM)Patti Wrote:  I have a question for Shannon. If someone who is not necessarily heavy or has a physical weight issue, more like they felt in their mind that they were heavy, obviously because of self esteem issues, would this program help them?

The program is designed to cover a lot of ground, and self image is part of it. Self esteem is part of it. The program is a wholistic approach in the truest sense of the word, because the whole must be dealt with, not the parts. So yes, it will help them, although you'd have to be more specific in what you mean. It's designed to trigger a lifestyle change and a change in the thinking, beliefs and self image of the person using it. If they don't need to lose weight, it will still affect everything else.

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01-12-2012, 11:14 PM
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Cool, some good results! 15 pounds/7kg (I had to convert it for myself, we use kg here.) Is awesome for about close to a month. I would be happy with that!

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01-12-2012, 11:20 PM
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(01-12-2012 11:14 PM)benjamin Wrote:  Cool, some good results! 15 pounds/7kg (I had to convert it for myself, we use kg here.) Is awesome for about close to a month. I would be happy with that!

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01-14-2012, 06:11 AM
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I'm in Australia. What about you?

Have you had alot of challenges in the past with losing weight? All the trying i've done in the last few years hasn't been very successful. If you are a similar case as me then I know it will work similar for me too.

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01-16-2012, 08:44 PM
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(01-14-2012 06:11 AM)benjamin Wrote:  I'm in Australia. What about you?

Have you had alot of challenges in the past with losing weight? All the trying i've done in the last few years hasn't been very successful. If you are a similar case as me then I know it will work similar for me too.

-Ben

I'm in Michigan USA. As for the weight issues, I've never really lost weight to be honest. I was a little bit chubby as a younger kid, but barely noticeable. However, as my weight grew fairly consistently. As I was growing in height as well, so the problem was masked. I still looked fit and healthy. However, when I stopped growing upwards... I did not stop growing outwards lol.

I gained a lot in college and I tried twice to do a diet. One was a no-carb which lasted only a few weeks. The other one was south beach diet. Neither did any noticeable results.

My screenname has to do with the book Wheat Belly (Dr. William Davis). There are a lot of issues with genetically modified wheat that create a lot of body fat and trick your body into thinking you are hungry more times than you should be (and for more food). I've passed that information all on to Shannon and I believe some of his research indicated similar things. I basically quit eating all wheat products and bread. I do not count carbs or do atkins. I have plenty of rice, potatoes, and fruits for carbs, just not wheat. Enriched/bleached flour also has several bad chemical properties (research Alloxan that they give lab rats to induce diabetes -- surprise... the chemicals used to enrich/bleach flour has an output of a lot of Alloxan).

The sub however, has been the real game changer for me. I am almost totally done with the first stage, and I just don't find myself hungry like I used to. One IMPORTANT note though, I missed a day yesterday due to some unexpected travel and I actually had my stomach growl and felt hungry way more than usual. When I got home I immediately started playing the sub, and within about 10minutes those feelings subsided!
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01-17-2012, 02:00 AM
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It's good your getting results.

Sounds like we may be eating in a similar way. I'm doing The Primal Blueprint. Which is a low carb diet, but not as extreme as atkins. The author recommends 100-150 grams a day. I don't think I could do no carbs at all, and he actually recommends against that.

I just tried that fitnesspal thing out of interest. And my carbs are approx just under 150. Atleast they will be today.

I'm eating little wheat, but still crave it alot. And some days I will have it, usually in the form of making a pizza from pitta bread with just tomato paste and cheese.

The challenge is lowering my carbs and also eating meat, I don't like alot of it and sausages don't really cut it, but that's what i've started with.

The author is also big on cutting out wheat. You might like the book.

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01-26-2012, 01:15 AM
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Hey everyone. So I have quite the report...

Back a week ago I switched to Stage 2. The very next day, I went to a friends place (supposed to be just for a day or two). I ended up staying an entire week and going off the deep end. Part of this is likely due to ending a major relationship I was in for a while.

Now when I say off the deep end... I'm talking I was borderline alcoholic for a week. I drank tons of both liquor and beer. I also completely blew off any "diet" and ate as much crap as I possibly could. Had Subway three times, several mcdonalds runs, pizza, etc etc. After a week, I realized how unproductive I was being and got back home. I jumped on the scale (scared I had regained most of the 17lbs I was down) and it appears I have gained between 1-2lbs from my lowest point. I'm thankful it was not much worse.

However I have noticed one strange thing. With Stage 1 if I was hungry, within 30 minutes of playing it I would not get hungry. And, in general, I was not interested in eating. I would wakeup in the morning and not even think about food. In fact, several days I would realize in the middle of the afternoon that I had not eaten yet and make myself eat so I had blood sugar and energy to workout. With Stage 2 I have not found this. Since returning home, I am hungry for three meals a day, and in more quantity than I was eating in Stage 1. Also, if I get hungry, playing it does not make it go away.

Not sure if this is a good or bad thing, perhaps it is just normalizing me out (as three meals a day seems normal anyways). Just a very interesting observation.

I will be posting more regularly again along with updating my food diary now that I got that post-breakup phase out of the way.
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01-26-2012, 01:25 AM
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I dare say that after a week of eating and drinking like that, to have gained 1-2 pounds is quite an accomplishment for the program.

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01-27-2012, 12:41 AM
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So funny story...

I get to my gym today and am talking to the guy that runs the men's locker room about how off my home scale is versus the gym. He says to me, "Oh yeah well that scale broke last week maybe that's it? We got a new one yesterday."

So I go check it and sure enough it is exactly what it was when I left for my drinking binge lol. This is a medical scale like you find at your doctor's office where you stand on it and then slide the weights and make it balance in the middle. I then went upstairs and checked on a digital scale they use in physical therapy area. It goes out to .1 lbs, but came up with the same weight.

I am really happy. I basically wasted a week of losing weight, but to eat and drink all that crap and not gain a single thing, WOW!

I'm at 19lbs down and looking forward to crossing the 20lb mark this week!!!
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